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Feb 18, 2010 11:37 pm Really. was that really necessary to post in every single section of this forum?
eh, bit irritating. i might still check out the sight later, but come on. posting in one forum to advertise your website is already a little shady considering you're not really a very active member here. posting it in 6 is just plain obnoxious.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Feb 18, 2010 11:45 pm +1 for me, Fragile.
Don't double post, much less sextuple post. Even if you were a regular you'd get ragged on for doing that. The mods will deal with this when they get to it. Not quite a ban-able offense, but I do hope that the Jehova's Witnesses stop by your house 6 times this week.
Feb 19, 2010 12:04 am Bad form... Truly bad form...
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Hehhehheee -- The little angry face almost looks like he's saying "Bad form."
Feb 19, 2010 12:26 am lol, MM I was laughin for a few mintues cuz the angry face is most definitely saying bad form....I am distracted easily.
Feb 19, 2010 12:41 am LOL hey watch it now!!! i'm one of jehovah's witnesses and proud of it. I might just send a whole platoon of us knocking on your door or calling your house :P
ps, just to clarify in case the tongue sticking out at you didn't tip you off enough, i'm not easily offended about small comments like that.
BleakA small pie will soon be eatenMember
Since: Aug 26, 2004
Feb 19, 2010 01:07 am The ONLY reason I'm not deleting this is because it appears to be a genuine attempt at a community and not some sales rubbish.
Katrina - in future ask the admins for permission to sprook your site and multiple posting is OUT and will not be tolerated.
All other posts have been locked.
You have been warned.
Feb 19, 2010 06:32 am Thanks for the help Bleak. I deleted those other threads and spam flagged this one just to be a jerk.
Katrina, really classy move on your part...
Coolo determined that the face is saying "Bad Boy" a few years back, but yeah, it could be bad form as well.
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Feb 19, 2010 07:02 am i dunno,
its like she posted the "pissed" face in anticipation.
Feb 19, 2010 08:28 am haha, could be...
I hate to harsh anyone's buzz that is trying to accomplish something, but this is a pretty classless way of getting people to join their site...besides, a small tip to Katrina...if you have an idea of a site to create, you'd be a great deal ahead of the game to do a little research and see how much competition is already out there...
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Feb 19, 2010 10:54 am Haha sorry Fragile. My wife's oldest sister was adopted, and when she found her biological parents it turns out they're Jehova's Witnesses. She comes from a long line of devout Irish Catholics so that was pretty interesting seeing them come to terms that their oldest daughter was really from a family of Jehova's Witnesses. Clash of idealogies there.
But hey their youngest daughter married me, a non-practicing Methodist, and they're been nothing but loving and supportive. So they've more than proven their open-mindedness :-)
...a little thread hijack here, but this thread was lame anyways so I don't feel bad...
Pretty much all religions look weird to one another. But after I looked into it, I think that the Mormons take the cake as the weirdest Western religion. I'm sure that there are some other religions out there in the world that make Joseph Smith look totally sane and honest, but I think that he's the king of strangest religion practiced widely in America.
...not to offend any Mormons though, I got nothing against them. But you have to admit that the origin of that religion is totally fishy. Read about it sometime.
Feb 19, 2010 10:57 am Actually, any religious person with even a small amount of common sense realizes that they are the same on about 95% of their beliefs...the differences come with the "name" that "God" goes by, and the differences that are created by man's interpretation of what THEY THINK the words of the Bible mean.
Use a supreme beings name generically, throw out man made doctrine and you have pretty darn similar religions across the board in much of the modern world.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Feb 19, 2010 11:21 am I agree. I just finished reading Dan Brown's latest book The Lost Symbol. Now, I don't go taking novels as doctrine, but he really did a good job of outlining the beliefs of the Freemasons, down to the very core of their beliefs about a higher power.
Now I'm not a religious guy, although I've never really labeled myself as atheist either. Agnostic doesn't really cover my position either, because I'm neither seeking a higher power nor am I indifferent towards it. I dunno, I'm kind of lazy when it comes to a theology. Anyways, I won't get into what I believe here since I'm not so sure myself.
But in The Lost Symbol, Brown goes into the Masons' belief in The Great Architect, a denomination-independant greater power that represents the "God" that is ever-present in every major religion in the world. The book is a good lesson in the point that you make, that every religion simply has different terminology for the same core concept. It's just the details that differ.
Feb 19, 2010 11:28 am I've heard that book is a pretty good look at Freemasonry on the whole, I am waiting for the movie though.
That much is true tho, any time we, as Freemasons, call on deity, it is almost always referred to as "The Great Architect of the Universe" and the square and compass is placed on a chosen page of the sacred text of all members of the Lodge and in no way dictate to any Brother what "God's" name is, nor how he is to be worshiped. That is the choice of the Brother.
All we know is we are all looking to accomplish the same things...just try to leave the world, or our small area of it, a little better than we got it, try to help mankind on the whole, and try not to make a public spectacle or press release opportunity out of it every time we do something and say "look how great we are".
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Feb 19, 2010 12:09 pm Definitely read the book, because you get to stop and study the interesting parts. Plus its kind of fun to participate in the puzzles that Langdon is presented. You'll never figure them out, but its fun to try anyways. The trouble with the movies is that they blast by so quickly that you don't get to stop and consider any of the info that's presented to you.
But the end of the latest book goes off into detailing this philosophy, which really bored the hell out of me. After all of this high-energy action, you spend 50 pages reading about how all things are connected and how there's one true God. Tha'ts fine and all but its a lame ending to an exciting caper. It's like listening to somebody who was just "saved" prattle on with vigor about how much their newfound religion means to them.
I've read all 3 books in the Robert Langdon series, and I've seen the 2 movies made so far. I can't defend them as great literature, but I really dig the subject matter and the blend of religious history and fiction. It's kinda fun to try to identify where he crosses the line from history to fiction. I gotta hand it to Brown, he does a good job of researching the subject matter and making seamless transitions between fact and fiction. He really makes you want to look beneath the surface of some mainstays of today's world: religion, art, the foundations of our country. We really, truly, don't even know half the story of our own forefathers' plans for our country. Did you know that Washington D.C. was originally named "New Rome"? They patterned their blueprint of the future America after parts of old Roman culture. They even originally named the Potomac river the Tiber, they built a pantheon complete with stautes of Roman Gods overlooking their central government building, and over the years countless symbols were put in place that depict our forefathers as becoming Gods just like the old Romans began to believe about their own emperors.
Anyways, the latest book is definitely worth a read if you like the series. I blew through it in about 3 or 4 days, which is fast for me. I'm not a big book buff so I tend to read slowly. But I've been fighting a bout of insomnia lately so I've been awake a lot in the middle of the night, giving ample opportunity to read.
Hehehe, oh the joys of finding a purpose for otherwise useless threads :-) I've obviously got too much time on my hands and I obviously don't want to do any of the work that's piling up ahead of me. I should really be working but I've spent the morning watching Undercover Brother and The Price Is Right. Now I'm off to play Godfather on the PS3 and then have lunch. Then maybe, just maybe, I'll start to work. But only after I check back on this thread and possibly write another 1,000 words about who knows what. :-D
Feb 19, 2010 12:15 pm I'll never read the book, I'm not a reader unless it's for a specific purpose or education, never, or rarely, for entertainment, I just don't have the time.
Yeah, I love all the forefather assumptions, people being pissed about this and that because "this is a Christian nation" when the fact was that was the LAST thing on their minds, they were trying to make a nation free from religious rule, not a singular religious rule, and where people are individually capable of success by the sweat of the brow with minimal gov't, not totalitarian gov't...how far we have fallen from a great idea.
Feb 19, 2010 04:25 pm Hah wow really? small world! And ya, there are certainly more similarities than there are differences. Its Christianity, interpreted differently than many of the churches do. The biggest ones i'd say is that we don't believe in hell, Jehovah and Jesus are separate entities to us, and people will be resurrected on earth rather than heaven. And of course a lot of smaller more detailed differences. But we use the same scriptures to gather our information as everyone else has in the past.
Feb 19, 2010 04:40 pm Quote:
But we use the same scriptures to gather our information as everyone else has in the past.
Yeah, that's where "interpretation" comes into play...and here is the most bestest, funniest, ironicist part...in a vast majority of the religions in particular, the things that are actually different have absolutely ZERO to do with salvation...ya know, the whole point of religion...it's all auxiliary crap that churches make up to stay busy.
Feb 19, 2010 05:07 pm That is true! in fact, don't many religions teach that all you have to do is believe in god and you're saved? Good point. A lot of the teachings i have no idea how a church would have come up with those ideas. Granted, the only one i do have extensive knowledge on is the my own which i've been studying for years. But still some of it seems fishy. So i don't really offend anyone else reading this, i'll pick holidays to discuss. Take christmas for example, no one knows when jesus was born exactly, but most predictions weren't anywhere near 12.25 (we don't celebrate births anyway, but thats another long discussion lol). And any small bit of research seems to suggest that something like 300 years after jesus's death people began celebrating his birth on 12.25 to coincide with some pegan festivals around the same time frame, to draw in and assimilate more church members. Whether or not that theory is true, its a bit discontenting that churches would do that! even if it was 16-1700 years ago.
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