Ouch!

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The Czar of BS
Member Since: Dec 31, 2007

Philadelphia is just about bankrupt.

Right now to save money, the Mayor is cutting back services in the city.

They plan on closing 68 of the cities 72 pools this summer.

28 of the 32 libraries.

Removing 5 pumper trucks from the firefighters.

They are not cutting any cops. However, they do not plan on filling any vacancies that develop from here on out.

And the biggest Ouch. They only plan on plowing the major roads this winter. Which means that no roads in the city it's self will be plowed.

I depend on oil heat. how are the delivery trucks going to get to my apartment?

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Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


Nov 06, 2008 11:14 pm

Minneapolis did the no slow plowing on non major city streets in the 60's. It was cool for bumper hitching but not for those who had to drive on them daily.

But back then studs were legal on tires. And in those years it wasn't uncommon to see tire chains either.

But ya, OUCH is a stating it lightly I guess.

Eat Spam before it eats YOU!!!
Member
Since: May 11, 2002


Nov 07, 2008 08:10 am

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I depend on oil heat. how are the delivery trucks going to get to my apartment?


Easy, they wont. Buy an electric space heater and generator for emergencies, and a bunch of blankets. Or if you have the money a collapsible solar array big enough to run a space heater. - Be happy they gave you some warning.

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also have atleast a three month pantry... try to use thing that don't expire for a couple years (while keeping sodium at reasonable levels) ...spaghetti lasts 2 years... what you don't use donate and write it off taxes.

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
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Since: May 10, 2002


Nov 07, 2008 08:41 am

Yup, Could be tricky.

In northern Michigan when things got real cold, we would often have to shut down most of the house to include winterizing some of the water pipes and live in a limited space surrounding a franklin stove. The kids loved it. Like a big sleep-over party. They still hold those times as the fondest times in their lives. There are some real efficient corn buring stoves out there as well that are easly vented. You may have to become a little creative.

Ne'er ate 'er
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Since: Apr 05, 2006


Nov 07, 2008 09:46 am

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Nov 07, 2008 10:58 am

Wow...just...wow...

Not living there, I do see a bright side that somebody is attempting to govern within a budget...but yeah, ow.

Pools...eh, in tight times stuff like that should be the first to go (in my opinion)...fire, rescue and cops...should be the last. No plowing, wow, in Phili? Double wow...

I am guessing the mayor isn't taking a pay cut, and is still getting his nice daily stipend for food, parking and such, right?

I do like's zek's wise advice, I'll say that. Might be time to invest in another layer of insulation if you can, and button up the house nice and tight this winter...not so tight you carbon monoxide poison yourself, but, well, you know what I mean I hope...

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Nov 07, 2008 11:09 am

Dang! Phili's a great town, too... bummer. Those 3-M window sheets may be pretty helpful keeping the heat in. Also, if you go the space-heater route, try the radiator-type that are filled with oil, they're about as efficient as space heaters get. Also, make sure that you don't run any major appliances on the same circut.

Prince CZAR-ming
Member
Since: Apr 08, 2004


Nov 07, 2008 12:32 pm

In the 'pre-burn' house we had, we did this on real cold, windy nights. Shut down the upstairs, and sleep on the main floor during extra cold snaps. That old house was just to hard to heat.

The new one is nice, well insulated, good windows, 6" walls, etc.

When I lived in Detroit (7mi & telegraph), more than a few of us would snowblow out in front of our houses quite a ways. It would clear up maybe 20 or so feet on both sides of my entrance. Keeps the neighbors happy, makes it easier to get into my drive way, etc.

But, we never had the plows stop, they would just take a few days to get to our sidestreets.

I'd hate to think of them not plowing at all. Actually, Cheboygan county last year said they weren't going to plow on weekends. They actually did, but it was scary to think main roads wouldn't be plowed for a few days.

Hopefully, philly won't be to hard hit by winter this year, and it won't be too much of a problem.

Byte-Mixer
Member
Since: Dec 04, 2007


Nov 07, 2008 12:33 pm

While a lot of that is a foreign concept to my Florida-born self, at the same time its kinda smacking me upside the head with a hammer. Ya see, there's a high possibility I'll be moving up to Iowa City next May. While that's not wintery time, I'll be living there for an indeterminant amount of time. I may have to be coming back to this thread winter of '09.

Still, that sounds bad. Real bad. Hope everything works out.

Ne'er ate 'er
Member
Since: Apr 05, 2006


Nov 07, 2008 12:46 pm

Rob, once a few old folks start freezing to death, you'll see a quick plowing policy change. You'll get your heating oil.

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