Cubase LE4: bottom of the learning curve

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Member Since: Apr 19, 2008

I want to do some basic vocal stuff, and I found that with a 1/4-inch computer mic and CoolEdit2000 I could easily record. The problem was I didn't sound very good at all, so I'm blaming the equipment; I purchased a "real" mic and a Lexicon Lambda desktop recording studio, which comes with Cubase LE4.

Making the change is like going from riding a bicycle to flying a plane, and I haven't been able to get off the ground yet.

I notice that Cubase comes with some tutorials on the CD-ROM that I have no doubt would be VERY helpful, except that they are in Cubase format. I think they should have a "how to set it up and get it working" tutorial that doesn't assume the software is already running.

The basic problem right now is that I am not getting sound in or out of Cubase. Is there anyone who can give me some pointers?

Thanks in advance.

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Apr 19, 2008 08:27 pm

check out "setting up vst connections" in the getting started manual

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Apr 19, 2008 09:52 pm

If that's the best you can do, you shouldn't waste people's time posting your helpful replies. RTFM re-heated. Thanks for the brilliant insight.

edit0r
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Since: Aug 17, 2004


Apr 20, 2008 01:40 am

Cool it dude, hes just trying to help eh.

Haven't used 4, but in 3 I'd go to 'devices - device set up' and make sure your Lambda is selected as your ASIO driver/sound card.

Then got to 'VST connections' and create a stereo output bus, if its not already there.

After that (assuming your speakers are connected, volume up etc.) I'd import an audio file, hit playback and see if you get any output, or at least see something on your level meters.

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Apr 20, 2008 07:07 pm

Hi Colonel Sanders,

Dude, I LOVE your chicken! But since she hasn't reached the age of consent, we will speak of that no further.

It's kind of you to give Deon the benefit of the doubt, but to me he's like a guy who shouts "Swim! Swim for all you are worth!" to a drowning man.

I am aware of the manuals, and I tried working with them, and after getting things to work now through sheer force of will, I can tell you that the manuals have errors in them that will lead any careful and thoughtful person like myself astray.

The problem boils down to this - the present Lexicon Lambda ASIO driver does not behave the way the manual indicate that it does.

The manual suggests that it is possible to have the Lexicon Lambda as an INPUT and the PCs sound card as the OUTPUT. This is not true. The Lexicon Lambda ASIO acts as if the entire world is Lexicon Lambda-ville: it does NOT support the internal sound card of the PC, even though the illustration shows it doing so.

I am still puzzled as to the purpose of the so-called "tutorials" included on the Lambda CD. Many of them have a project file and empty folders. What's the point of that? Oh, they save you the difficulty of creating your own empty folders. Wow.

There's a lot to be desired from both the manual and the tutorials. I discovered that PreSonus sells a Cubase4LE tutorial DVD, and I've ordered it. I can't wait to see how helpful it will be.

I am not a crook's head
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Apr 20, 2008 07:15 pm

Holy schnikes!!! Take 2 of these and call us when your DVD arrives.


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Apr 20, 2008 09:00 pm

Wow, this place is crawlin' with geniuses!

Czar of Midi
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Apr 20, 2008 09:14 pm

Dude, I will also politely ask you to take a chill pill.

You came seeking info and started to get some. But your very next post is dissing a member who is giving you a starting point.

Did you bother to tell anyone that you don't understand the manual and the getting started part helped with nothing?

And you get a good reply from CS and diss him as well. Not a very good start for getting answers to your questions.

I have read the Lambda manuals as well as set up Lambdas. I personally do not recommend using them at all as they are not a very user friendly piece of hardware. The manual is pretty clear about the fact that ASIO will limit your use to the Lambda only. Not sure what picture you are referring to but ASIO is and has always been a one piece of hardware driver set.

On all the CD's I have seen for the Lambda there are files in every folder on the CD.

And yes, your statement of the place crawling with geniuses is very true. Maybe you should show them a little respect and you will gain some respect as well. This is a very helpful place and thousands of users seem to think so. Don't dis-respect someone because you didn't get an exact answer you wanted in a heartbeat. Learn to be a little more patient and you will find may here willing to help you.

edit0r
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Apr 20, 2008 09:18 pm

Valium tad? Give this one cyanide :-)

Quote:
The manual suggests that it is possible to have the Lexicon Lambda as an INPUT and the PCs sound card as the OUTPUT


I don't think you can operate two different sound cards with ASIO, as a heads up.

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Apr 21, 2008 11:07 am

Quote:
I notice that Cubase comes with some tutorials on the CD-ROM that I have no doubt would be VERY helpful, except that they are in Cubase format.


Just thinking out loud, but these might be the very thing you need. If they are in Cubase format, it's likely that they are a 'walkthrough' that will show you every button to press.

Not familiar with the Lambda.

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Apr 22, 2008 06:17 am

i can think of something you might need, and with an attitude like yours yojimbo, im sure you've been given it a few times, seems some people dont learn eh.

where the hell do you think i got my info from?? the bottom of my shoe??

thats right doofus i have the same DVD.

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Apr 22, 2008 12:12 pm

Colonel Sanders said,

"I don't think you can operate two different sound cards with ASIO, as a heads up."

Thank you. This is something that Steinberg neglects to mention in the manual for Cubase LE4. By the way, my "chicken joke" wasn't meant to offend, but was a reference to a dining establishment here in America called KFC, which was started by someone with the same name as yours. I don't think cyanide is one of the seven secret herbs and spices.

Tall Chap said,

"Just thinking out loud, but these might be the very thing you need. If they are in Cubase format, it's likely that they are a 'walkthrough' that will show you every button to press."

Thank you. I thought so too, so imagine my surprise upon seeing that they do NOTHING. It doesn't help that the manual gives no directions on the proper use of these "tutorials." Another example of some fine technical writing.


Deon said,

"where the hell do you think i got my info from?? the bottom of my shoe??"

Thank you. I had no idea you wore a shoe. So the DVD told you to go read the manual?


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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Apr 22, 2008 12:15 pm

ASIO, natively supports only a single device at a time, however, many manufacturers have made their ASIO drivers work with multiple devices, but generally each device needs to be the same model, or at least the same manufatcyurer to ensure the drivers work together.

For the record, I thought the chicken joke was kinda funny...that said, you should calm down a bit, we try to stay a mite light hearted here while still learning...so, ummmm, get a grip please...you'll find you get what you give, and there is a lot of knowledge to be had from the good people here.

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Apr 23, 2008 07:00 am

Yeah sometimes i wear a shoe or two, but im a thong man or flip flops if you're American.

The dvd is basicly the manual but you get more a step by step. its pretty good.
it does have its vaugeness also.

So i guess you'll love that too.

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Apr 28, 2008 04:46 pm

Jimbo, no one on here is a mind reader. Unless you put in writing EVERYTHING you have already tried, then there is no point in jumping on people for stating the obvious. You started by saying you where new to this.

Good news and bad news. Bad is Lexicon in my mind is just so so. USB1.0 only!!!! I use it, and its ok, just limited.

Good news, tech support is awesome. Call them with your problem they are as familiar with Cubase as they are with their own product (since they bundle together). I have called a few times, never on hold for more than a minute.

I would suggest cooling your attitude though, or they might hang up on you.


Music is my boyfriend
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May 10, 2008 12:23 pm

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Music is my boyfriend
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May 10, 2008 12:24 pm

hey i have cubase too, and its a pain in the ***, it always affects the sound of everything on my computor, what i do is just uninstall and then reinstall cubase, and that works for me...hope this helps!

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Since: Jul 21, 2008


Jul 21, 2008 05:44 pm

HELP!!

My story is the same as yojimbo. Now, I have owned Cubase for three weeks & I just got the security clearance. I could have cracked the system faster.

Now I can't figure out how to stop the double play.

I have worked with four different systems & Cubase is the worse of them all, based on the fact that it has taken me 3 weeks to get the security clearance & I am still trying to figure out the problems.

I am hoping that once I get past the double play Cubase will stop being junk. As for now I am calling it JUNKBASE!

Just thing the store clerk went through extremes to get me to buy the sound card that forces me to use cubase.





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Jul 21, 2008 10:59 pm

seriously, Cubase, or for that matter ANY of these programs have their pains, but in all honesty, they are all easy to get going once you find out what, and the reason why it isnt doing what you want.

keep posting your problems here on this site and you will be up and running in no time. Most of the time, its the computer set up or your interface that is doing this to you and hardly ever the music software itself. Cubase does have some setting up involved but its straight forward.
Man, i was only in your exact position at the beginning of the year. Now its all good.
The snapperhead that started this thread bought a Lexicon which was mistake number one.
I had major problems with this product as did many. at the end of the day i got something else. There was never hassles with cubase itself.

What interface are you using?

I'd be glad, if im able, to help you out with Cubase stuff, but with computer stuff, there are heaps of people here who can help you. Im using a Mac so i never really got into having to set up the ol computer thing. maybe you've done all this already, but apparently there are quite a few things to do in that respect.

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Jul 21, 2008 11:13 pm

Sorry, when you say "double play", what does that mean exactly?
I have some idea, let me know and i will see if i can help.

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Jul 22, 2008 12:33 am

I am realizing that I haven't set up the midi port for my FL Studio 7. It's not the same as Cubase SX, so I am lost. The manual don't seem to be getting to the point.

& when I used the audio set up I noticed the meter that show the audio level were
moving, & when I finally for a sound it seemed to be multiple sounds playing at once or a delay.


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Jul 22, 2008 04:18 am

I would message a guy from this site, his name is Noize2U. He knows about this sort of thing i think. Check for his name under Members.
Hope you dont mind noize.

i know there is a midi filter in cubase that you can turn off because otherwize it dosent know which midi port to use.
Im not sure how to do this. i will check a book i have here and get back to ya.

im not sure if latency is the culprit either here. dont know if latency is applicable with midi.
do you know what it is set at?

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Jul 22, 2008 01:15 pm

Silverblackcell, you'll find that assclowns like Deon and his posse require that you possess Kreskin-like skills.

They expect you on one hand to explain in minute detail the nature of your problem, and on the other hand to somehow just know what their own previous experience with Cubase has been and what resources they have at their disposal.

You have probably noticed that so far Deon hasn't offered a single bit of helpful advice to you. That's because his REAL talent is reprimanding neophytes for not being his intellectual equal (though that would require a step DOWN for most) and hurling epithets and insults, which he will now demonstrate.

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Jul 22, 2008 08:17 pm

such big words there yojo. Me nots sure what they means's.

How did you go with your problem, get it fixed?
Ok, fair enough i did ask for the latest attack on poor ol Deon. We do have a history though.
I guess we are even then?

See, no hurling of anything so far.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Jul 22, 2008 09:04 pm

Yojimbo, I don't see anywhere in this thread Deon has been anything but helpful.

So consider this a warning. Use caution when you are going to tread on grounds that are not there. And even more caution when you stomp on a member that is helping another.

Deon, no problem at all.

silverblackcell, you might have the echo midi input turned on in the options/midi section.

AS for looking for the settings for FL you can usually find the drop down menu's under the options tab at the top of the application menu. Simply click that and it should get you to both audio and midi options.

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