Par lights
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Posted on Jan 31, 2008 09:19 am
mclir9
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There is basically PAR38, 46, 56 and 64 as far as PAR Cans go for lighting. What is sufficient for lighting for say the lights being within 10-15' of the band. Anyone have experience with this stuff?
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Jan 31, 2008 09:26 am oh, yeah, I've played this game.
10-15 feet I'd say the smaller ones are fine if you have a few of them. I built my own system (it was awesome, I was a machinist at the time and had access to some great trussing and stuff), Noize's son has it last I heard, and it had 12 cans, plus 4 little spots, the smaller size (which are essentially flood lights) and it worked great for up to a five person band when half of them were on at any given time. They are very bright as just white lights, when color gels are put in front of them the perceived brightness is somewhat diminished but still good.
One thing to remember with these lights is that they not only provide light, but they provide heat, and the par 64's are DAMN HOT...
I played one venue that had full racks of par 64's about 4 feet over our heads and I have never sweat so much in my life...the drummer actually got burned on his back...
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Jan 31, 2008 09:39 am depends :)
Is supposed to be a quick and easy setup or a 'good' or permanent setup?
but I would suggest ETC Source Four... it's not very expensive off ebay and it's very flexible, is an industry standard... but is quite a bit more complex than a Par... another brand to look at is altman... the types of lights are called Ellipsoidal...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_Four
Jan 31, 2008 12:02 pm If you want, you can email me on this. My wife is a lighting designer. And has a resume that still blows my mind. This is only if your not in a hurry. Her and I right now have a lot that we are going through right now. And if some of my thoughts seems a bit scattered right now, it's because of it.
cbs3.com/topstories/Phila...o.2.634981.html
This link is why. My father-in-law is Jordan.
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Jan 31, 2008 12:21 pm Wow, that's terrible. My thoughts go out to everyone. I hope he will be ok.
Jan 31, 2008 12:25 pm oi, dude, thoughts go out to you and yours, that is horrible.
Jan 31, 2008 12:32 pm Thanks guys. Sorry to lay that on all of you. It's just one of those things. You try to internalize your thoughts, and keep your mind on work. So, I was going to try to keep posting for awhile, until is saw that I was not being clear on some details.
I'll still check in from time to time, but, I'll keep the posting to a minimum.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 31, 2008 10:54 pm Rob, this place is open to this stuff. I just lost my father in law in Sept. and HRC was what kept me sane. He was more like a best friend then a father in law. But keeping pace here as best I could was the best medicine for me.
Prayers go out to your family from here as well.
Feb 01, 2008 01:42 am Noize, thanks for reminding me that I am not alone in this. I am very sorry to hear that you lost your father-in-law just a short while ago.
As with any loss, it a very hard thing to deal with. Since he is still suffering in the hospital, just compounds this for my wife and I.
Trying to help others I feel, kind of makes up for the fact that I can not do any thing for him.
Mclir9 I did show this post to my wife. If you still need some help in choosing which par lights to go with, we are here to help.
dB brings up a good point about the heat of par 64s. There is another alternative.
She recently purchased a LED system for a college in the area here. They give the equivalent of a 300w par 56. However, they are only 10w a fixture. Other advantages are size, weight, color changing, and fx's.
Here is the best part. The ones that she ordered where cheap and easy to use!
MBT is the manufacture that she ordered from. She was able to 8 pars and 2 movers, with cases and pole mounts, and controllers, for less then 3000.
Pretty cool to be able to have your Guitar amp and a 8 bar of LED lights in the same circuit!
They also work with any DMX board. So if your on stage playing, you can use a DMX foot pedal to control them.
www.stagelightingstore.com is where she bought them.
www.stagelightingstore.co...;category=62590
This link will take you right to the system.
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Feb 01, 2008 12:00 pm Be careful when buying those PAR64's. Some of them are designed to work in submerged situations and when not submerged can get hot enough to compromise the lamp seal. Ouch. Read the box...
I think those things were designed as headlights for locomotives.
Keith WarrenMans reach exceeds his graspMember
Since: Oct 23, 2007
Feb 01, 2008 12:22 pm For the lights, any normal club/bar (capacity between 200-1500) I've ever been in uses par 46, and sometimes a row or two of par 56. you don't need the projection of a 64 unless you're talking about heights of 18+ feet. And even then, you'll want to keep them to a minimum, as they tend to burn out faster than smaller cans, and if not set up right are a huge fire hazard.
As for your situation Rob, I lost my father this time 2 years ago. There's alot I wont drag into the forum, but if you ever need someone to chat with or talk to or anything, feel free to e-mail me and I'll ring you or leave you my number. I know how hard this type of thing can be, and this forum is great about things like this. Once you're here, you're family.
