Sep 12, 2007 11:02 am HOLY CRAP!!!!!! Wow, those are huge!
Glad to hear you're healing, dB-Wan.
Post-Surgery Notes
Posted on Sep 12, 2007 10:52 am
dbmasters
Administrator Since: Apr 03, 2002
OK, most of you knew I was going in for a septoplasty and a turbinate somnioplasty...which amounts to straightening my septum and enlarging the wind pipes behind my nose.
I had it, woke up totally out of it and in pain, they gave my wife the drug instructions and all that and I went home. I stayed doped up for a few days in extrem discomfort then, went in Monday to get the stints out of my nose. You can see a picture of the stints in my profile next to a guitar pick for size reference, It stunned me how big they were, no wonder I was uncomfortable.
Anyway, right after those came out that first breath was so big I almost passed out...I can't believe the difference...since then I have gotten congested from the healing and my nose hurts from any little bump (which is hard to avoid when asleep...)
I am dizzy from insane amount of oxygen getting in my head, which I am guessing I will get used to and tired from not sleeping for days on end...the results look promising tho...just feel like totally hell right now.
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Sep 12, 2007 11:02 am HOLY CRAP!!!!!! Wow, those are huge!
Glad to hear you're healing, dB-Wan.
Sep 12, 2007 11:16 am Yeah, I almost crapped my pants when I saw that first one after he pulled it out...I had no friggin idea how big those things were...amazing.
Sep 12, 2007 11:16 am Quote:
my nose hurts from any little bump
I was there, in the summer of 1988, as I recall.. :-/
The guitar pick probably woulda been more comfortable. Good thing you didn't try to get through airport security with those things in yer snout...
And yeah, oxygen is overrated.
Happy you're recovering.
Sep 14, 2007 06:54 pm Nice pix. :-O
It was good of them to leave all the boogie goo and such in them for a nice effect.
But indeed, I can imagine how interesting it must be to breath freely now. And indeed, Oxygen can give a pretty good rush to the body.
Sep 14, 2007 09:10 pm this makes me want this surgery again. i remember that feeling, too, just like that! i'm dismayed that something has happened yet again to me, for no reason i can think of, these past few years. my nose is pretty much like it was before the surgery now. hard to breathe, just like before. hope yours sticks with ya, db. i want to have a word with a doctor. last time i tried, he didn't see enough of a reason to do it.
do you feel a difference in your mood at all? i seem to remember a changed mood, much more positive, something about increased oxygen maybe, but probably mostly the fact that i could smell again.
Sep 14, 2007 11:02 pm Well, so far I have only been crabbier with the pain and now my Vicodin ran out...and now, at 11PM I am running to the local 24 hour pharmacy to get some decongestant...hopefully when all that subsides I'll be in a better mood.
My nose in stuffed up, my septum hurts, I can't put on a hoodie without bumping it, my wife has been a...well, I can't blame that on the doctor...
Sep 15, 2007 10:33 am Hang in there man, I'm sure it'll all get better soon enough. I know how pain can make a huge impact on your temperment and the temperment of those around you.
Sep 19, 2007 06:48 am I had two big scabs drop outta my nose last night (OK, I picked 'em out, whatever) and actually got one of the best nights sleeps I have had in ages...more air coming in and out, BOTH nostrils have air flow and my nose is getting less tender by the day, though still a bit painful if moved wrong...
Pretty wacky, I am starting to notice the difference. No mood change, but then, life is sorta tough right now so it's a bad time to expect one, but still, feeling the improvements slowly.
I'm still am a-hole, so that hasn't changed.
Sep 19, 2007 11:30 am as for the mood changes, the way it hit me was kinda like this: smells would hit ya, and smells were largely foreign up till, you know, i could smell them. so you'd smell stuff and youd go 'hey! a smell!' and there'd be this little rush of identification and...awareness of the smell. this was like an extra layer of sensation. the world was just richer, and you'd react to it. smell is one of the oldest senses--the oflactory regions of the brain are ancient and are associated with the midbrain, which is where your emotions play out. one reason why smells can trigger memories decades later, etc. so, it was like being able to experience some new emotions and to remember some old ones, all because of smell. maybe the increased oxygen flow just made ya feel lighter and freer too, hard to remember.
Sep 19, 2007 11:46 am I know the increased oxygen makes a difference...my first breath was deep and I almost passed out...then I started congesting again...now that is subsiding and I am feeling the airflow again.
Last night I did not wake up one single time with a dry mouth from breathing through it which is a first in a while, I woke up more "awake" then I have in recent memory. My mood is being more dictated by outstanding life issues right now.
We had more psycho neighbor stuff come to light and it's really affecting my wife, which affects me, which affects our marriage...you know...life. Until this is finally legally resolved my mood will be dictated by it either directly or indirectly.
Sep 19, 2007 12:19 pm yes of course, understandable. but yeah, good point on the 'awakeness' thing.
Sep 19, 2007 12:51 pm Yeah, usually I would "wake up" all tired, groggy and cranky...this morning I woke up from a weird dream, awake...I was laying there like usual and thought..."wait a second, I am awake, like feeling rested", and popped up and went about my day...and it's going OK...still got the same **** going on in life but I am certainly feeling this improvement.
So instead of tired, groggy and cranky I woke up rested, energetic and cranky...
two outta three ain't bad. :-)
Sep 19, 2007 04:16 pm that's the best way to wake up. that happens to me about 4 days a week and it's great. if you don't use an alarm clock, i find, this tends to happen a lot.
Sep 20, 2007 07:12 am I have never in my life used an alarm clock...my body clock tends to be just as accurate, always has been...
Another good night sleep last night, though I congested a little bit over night.
I may even go to Kenpo class tomorrow, not sure, and if I do it'll be a NO contact kinda night, but I may go...
Sep 20, 2007 12:14 pm Jeez dB, sounds nasty.
Sounds like you're feeling much better than when you started this thread, hope so anyway.
No blow for you for a while.
Sep 20, 2007 12:29 pm hehehe, thats another good thing I found out, I had the surgeon poke around in there for damage from my meth days and he said he was surprised, given the length of my habit, how little damage there was...he told my I have healed up pretty good from that...which is a bit of good news too.
Sep 20, 2007 03:00 pm OMG them things are like elephant tusks!
good to hear you're healin' well man....and i to love not wakin' up to an alarm....my work schedule doesn't have me in until 4pm, and it's just nice to start the day off quietly instead of the jolt of an alarm. ofcourse i tend to sleep a bit more than i really need.
i went 4 days without drinking for the first time in prolly 2 years, and i had trouble sleeping, i'd sleep for 3 or 4 hours and just be 'not tired anymore'...prolly do to my body not gettin' sedated all the time by depressants. so here's a weird problem for me....i love hitting the bed and beein' out in less than 5 mins, and when i go to bed sober, i tend to lye awake for no less than an hour (regardless of time)...i'm a big reader and usually just read myself to sleep, or listen to talk radio, but i find they probably keep me awake more than help me fall asleep....
i tried one of those P.M. type pills, but i really don't care to use them. so what do ya recommend for gettin' to sleep faster? the only thing i can think of is to wake up earlier. haha
Sep 20, 2007 03:05 pm Quote:
so what do ya recommend for gettin' to sleep faster?
Sex
Sep 20, 2007 03:12 pm HAHA! well, that settles that!
Sep 20, 2007 03:22 pm Sex is nice, but considering I haven't been offered that in a while those PM tabs have worked...or Jagermeister.
Sep 20, 2007 06:19 pm WYD, go out and find yourself some Brian Eno, or Eno and Fripp. Get some trippy soundtrack type stuff. Tangerine Dream and the like. It really does work wonders to help sedate your mid a bit. I finally found a digital channel on cable that plays that stuff. I have actually been able to drift off nicely in 30 minutes or less doing that. And yes, I am an insomniac from birth, not by choice.
dB, you triggered my gag relfex there for a second, followed by a small chortle. Glad you strill's are coming around.
For me its Melatonin. I won't touch prescription sleep aids or the like any more.
Sep 21, 2007 03:28 am oh yeah noize, i was a big 'music while you sleep' guy back in high school, turned me on to Enigma, Vangelis, Robert Miles, and some crazy drone zen type stuff....but after a while, i started active listening to them and then i'd stay up just to listen.....so music while sleeping is almost completely out of the question.
i've found the directors comentary on dvd's quite productive on this issue...the volume stays constant, and you can close your eyes and still get what they're talkin' about...luckily, a am able to turn off the video monitor and leave the audio running (very handy when workin' with CRT's).
Sep 21, 2007 06:48 am I used to go to sleep to music...until the first time I heard Sweet Leaf, I was jarred awake by this horrible hacking sound...out of a trance close to asleep...argh...
Sep 21, 2007 03:46 pm wyd, i think that when you get off of alcohol, something happens to your gaba neurotransmitter system. and possibly the glutamate one, too. you should google it and see what you can find. there's also a reason why, if you drink to excess, you tend to wake up after about three hours, and that has to do with neurotransmitters too.
to get to sleep quickly without a drugged out effect, i recommend melatonin. it's the sleep hormone your body naturally produces when the lights dim, and you can get it anywhere. some people don't like it: if you don't get the dose right, you'll feel very cotton-headed the next day, out of sync with everything. but if you do find your dose, it's pretty good. it kind of sends you off to dreamland in the most natural way. you get hypnagogic images, those little dreamlets you sometimes get on the edge of sleep, and they carry you away. it's like the kind of sleep you would get when you were a kid. gives some people bizarre dreams, me included, but i like the ones i get. they're just surreal and vivid, but not bad.
Sep 21, 2007 08:44 pm Diet and exercise are the best ways for me to get good sleep. I can't drink caffene after about 3 or 4 in the afternoon or I have trouble getting to sleep. And when my activity level is higher, I tend to get way better sleep then when I'm lazy all week. Or all month...
Sep 21, 2007 09:02 pm I can't agree more on the Melatonin. I use it and it works fairly well on me, and thats a surprise as even Rx sleeping pills need a heavy dose for me, which I do not take anymore. So the alternative is Melatonin.
WYD, Enigma and Vangelis are great as well as many others. But the stuff I am talking about are like Fripp and Eno Evening Star. If that doesn't induce a tranquil feeling nothing will. It is not driven by the normal beats and sonic palette that your typical Enigma album is. It is a very simple sonic journey into realms uncharted. Lots of twinkly goodness. If I get a minute I will pull out the vinyl and pull a chunk off to get you a sample of what it is like.
Sep 22, 2007 03:43 am Eno as in Brian Eno? if so yeah, i've always like what i've heard from him...
Sep 22, 2007 11:43 am Dang dB !
Those are the same things I had in my face after the operation that stopped my headaches. Fun stuff ! I recorded a few songs with those things in my face.
Glad to hear you're doing well man.
Sep 22, 2007 02:10 pm noize, you ever try melatonin tea? that stuff's the best. it's a spearmint or chamomile tea. slightly gritty but good enough. by the time you're done with the cup you're falling off to dreamland, and the dosage never leaves me hungover in the morning. kind of hard to find, though. health food stores sometimes sell it. place called chamberlain's in florida always had it.
Sep 25, 2007 09:17 pm forty, no I have not tried that. Although my son Robbins mother set me up with tome killer tea that totally relaxed me. I wonder if that was along the same lines. I'll have to look into that. I love chamomile tea so that might be just what I'm looking for.
WYD, ya Brian Eno. Most people don't care for a lot of his stuff. I do however like the very trippy stuff he has done.
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