Aug 08, 2007 02:08 am mic both...especially the acoustic.
my two cents.
question about recording guitar
Posted on Aug 07, 2007 11:54 pm
End of Fall
Mikey Spencer
Member Since: Apr 26, 2007
electric - should i go through the line out on my head or mic my cab?
acoustic - should i just go straight into my mixer/preamp?
thank you
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Aug 08, 2007 02:08 am mic both...especially the acoustic.
my two cents.
Aug 08, 2007 10:35 am just to be a jerk...-1 on miking, get a modeler.
Aug 08, 2007 01:01 pm ah yes, modelling but only on the electric not on the acoustic (IMO). Much better sound by mic'ing the acoustic. It sounds a lot more natural.
Aug 08, 2007 01:15 pm I mic and DI my taylor (CE system) and they're both pretty darn good.
Depends on what mic(s) I use, and where it's placed. If you don't have great mics, then it changes your direction.
I mic and DI my gibson (piezo) and the DI signal is mostly unusable. I layer it below the mic signal, just for a little edgy-ness, but not much. But the mic signal is great.
I'd say always at least mic an acoustic.
Electric, I'd say both mic and plug in.
With electric, i'm tempted to build a cab fort, out of sound-deadening material. Brandon over at www.recordingreview.com did that and loved having the sound knocked down. If you're going to record distorted guitars, loud is the way to do it (hence the fort ).
Aug 08, 2007 02:18 pm yeah, modeling and acoustic is ummmmm, challenging, but the Variax I thought had a couple hollowbody sounds that were OK...
pjk, has that ******* Mr Bytch Killa still been hanging out there?
Aug 08, 2007 02:41 pm oh, i dunno, I haven't gone over there in like 6 months.
'cept to read the posts that were listed here =).
Aug 08, 2007 09:59 pm Um, none of you guys have plugged an acoustic into a Line 6 Toneport UX-2 yet have ya???
I tried it through one of the pre amps I tweaked out and it is the shiznit. I was actually surprised that it turned out decent. I have a good pre on the guitar itself, but pluggin that sucker through the UX-2 was more then I expected for sure.
Aug 08, 2007 10:49 pm Actually, I've been thinking about that, since dealing with this thread. I have a GT6 that has some acoustic models, that I may have to try out.
I have the guitar port too, but i'm not sure if there's acoustic stuff in there or not.
I'll have to try it out.
Aug 09, 2007 12:17 am Mic the acoustic. I just got done with a session with a fabulous picker. Did have a couple of snafu's. One boomer car went by.... I hate that. And then there was this fly. Never heard anything like that before. Wierdest sound. Thought it was some bizzare overheating problem or something when I heard it. Glad she noticed the thing on the capsule of the mic. A touch of compression and a pinch of verb and ...... ahhhhhhhhhhh. So nice.
Aug 09, 2007 04:55 am Although you can DI an acoustic it has a very distinct sound that I don't really care for without heavy processing. It makes them sound thin and nasally. Even a cheap mic will sound better in most cases.
Aug 09, 2007 04:39 pm I have recorded songs with a MIC in front of my Marshall TSL1002 - an all valve amp, I have MIC'd my old Marshall Valvestate 8080 - I have recorded direct with a VAMP2 and I also recorded direct via a Korg AX10G...
Honestly - the purists will know the difference ;-) ...... if possible, and with the right technique, a MIC'd (good) amp will sound the mutts nuts...modellers these days come close. Take yer pick based on cost/convience/access to a £900 all valve amp/£100 modeller...noise at night etc......to be honest - a decent modeller WONT sound bad. A good amp WILL sound good. FOr info, I would NOT use my line out from my Marshall if I could stick a 57 or 58 in front of it...I'd rather use a modeller than a line out and thats from the L/O of the TSL1002....seriously.
For acoustic - I have an Ovation semi-acoustic - best results have been using my B1 condenser AND di'ing the thing....mix the two together, pan em and eq them then viola...a bloody MASSEEEEF acoustic sound ;-) !! Yeeha man.
MIC'ing will sound good when done well. When done poorly, a good modeller will sound better as most, have mic placement included in the sound and cab sims....cant go wrong with a VAMP2....as I say, I own all 3 - the TSL1002, VAMP2 and a Korg AX10G...all good, all useful - all depends on time/budget and circumstnaces.
Either way, good luck man.
Coco
Aug 09, 2007 08:34 pm pjk, I use the microphone pre amp models when I do it through the UX-2, It gives a really nice full warm tone to it.
As I stated, I was very surprised at the result once it was in a track.
But don't get me wrong here, I am all for still using a mic or two on acoustic. But this did make me stop and think about possibly using it in quick set up situations.
Aug 10, 2007 04:42 am oh ya.... i forgot to say im using a line 6 flextone 2 hd. and the cab i have is a marshall jcm 900
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