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Posted on Oct 29, 2005 04:27 pm
Psytoxic
Member Since: Aug 07, 2005
hey everybody, I drum and play mostly metal. In your opinion, what are the best hi-hats for metal? THanks
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Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 29, 2005 04:50 pm Sabian have an excellant ring to them, and are pretty loud hats. Most good symbal makers have a variety of hats to choose from, and all are pretty good. It is really a matter of going out and trying several differant ones untill you find one that suites your needs, or sounds like you want.
Oct 29, 2005 10:56 pm We bought Sabian hihats and Alchemy cymbols recently in an attempt to get parts together for a studio drum kit... They just sounded nicer for the price range we were looking at.
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Oct 30, 2005 12:41 am I use some old Zildjian Dynobeats... but in all honestly I use them because I have them...and my other HH's broke (Pastie)... I tend to stick with closed or semi-open... I think they (and HH's in general) sound like crap when fully open...
Out of about 7 cymbals the only one I went out and chose was my ride (after about a year of shopping) a Sabian 22" AA Metal-X
Sabians are great for harder rock but if you buy or currently own Sabian B8's (baits) you must be shot.
I think I was the customer from hell at Columbus Pro Percussion which has a huge selection of cymbals... and I hit every single one atleast once... and the ride I bought was at Guitar Center.... but I was about a week away from giving up and buying the biggest one I could find... which I think was a 26"
jmailjimmie neutronMember
Since: Feb 14, 2005
Oct 30, 2005 03:21 pm zekthedeadcow, you must be a bear to please in the studio with mic selection... lol... It's good to see some drummers with discriminating tastes in cymbals... Too many folks just buy the nearest "trash can lid" 'cause it has someone's name on it. I'm not a drummer myself, but the discriminating drummers I know usually go for a "thicker", heavier, bigger cymbal for their hats than a "standard" hat, and then leave the top hat a bit on the loose side, but not too loose. One prefers Sabian, another Paiste and the other Zildjian. I prefer the sound of the Zildjians, but he has to replace his more often than the Sabians...
Josh RoseJR ProductionsMember
Since: Mar 03, 2005
Oct 30, 2005 04:22 pm My vote is the 15" mastersound zildjian hats. Perfect for metal. Sounds nice closed and even better open. They're fairly thick so cracking them shouldn't be a problem. I once bought them but returned them because my band simply wasn't that metal.
Oct 30, 2005 05:36 pm I play lots of metal too. My buddy jeff has a pair of Instanbul Agop Sultan Series HH and they sound great but are incredibly hard to find. Just get something heavy and not too cheap. the Sabian metal x - paiste signature dark crisp - Zildjian A custom - Do they make paiste rude series hats? everything in the paiste rude series is great for metal.
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Oct 30, 2005 08:35 pm Pastie is really good for really cutting DreamTheaterish/normal-80's-metal must be because their German :) I've noticed that in very broad terms Zildjian is for jazz/swing sabian for blues/rock/hardcore and Pastie for metal. I tend to find myself in harcore bands though I also play at church. I should be starting in a new band (finally) with 1 or maybe 2 early members of Zao.
jamil: I actually don't get to be in normal studios with good mic selection much as here in columbus the only one worth while is well out of my price range at about $300 an hour... the other one I would bother with is actually a modern homebrew clone of Sun Studio by members of a band called 24:Idaho... I've only heard one recording out of them, a demo for Staple right before they were signed.... and it was good...
Personally I like to have nice sounding equipment (err equipment that sounds how I want it too...as one of my favoite cymbal is a 70's ride thatis broken in half... awsome for thrash/deathmetal as it sounds like a finely engineered trashcan lid with better sustain. All I need is a mic... pretty much any mic... that can reasonably capture the actual sound... which is why I've fallen in love with the Sennheiser ME66K6 even though it's not designed or musical use.
the big problem here in columbus is that engineers like to drink while tracking... so you actually just get a better product recording at home and spending three months mixing than spending $50 an hour to pay a guy to get wasted. The best demo I ever heard in my life was recorded in my basement by my old guitarist with some MXL condensers and SM57's with three months of mixing in a garage monitoring through home speakers... too bad the band we were recording sucked...
This winter I have a really ambitious project... I'm going to build my own drums... they will be solid wood instead of the normal plywood... no cuts... just holes for hardware... the problem is finding a log big enough for the bassdrum... but I've thought out how to do it...
