How to record Mic ONLY & hear music with: Yamaha MG 10/2

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Member Since: Jul 20, 2005

Hi guys,

My set up is as follow:

PC Audio OUT to ch. 7/8 of MG10/2, MIC in to ch. 1 of MG10/2, C/R OUT (L) of MG10/2 to PC Audio IN.

This setup will result in me hearing the music, hearing my voice as I sing along, but during recording, ALSO record the music!

As I want to achieve recording just the vocals into an Audio Track in Cubase, the background music in the audio input from the MG10/2 should not be outputted.

Any ideas, how I can hear the music through my phones, and yet record just the vocals only? Thanks

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 20, 2005 06:13 am

run the audio out from your PC straight to the speakers, not back into the mixer.

www.rigsbysmith.com
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Since: Nov 13, 2004


Jul 20, 2005 08:04 am

I don't know that mixer, but you could connect the direct outs from the mic imput to your PC or use a separate group for in and for out, which is what i do.

I am not a crook's head
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Since: Mar 14, 2003


Jul 20, 2005 10:57 am

I have that same mixer, and somebody here taught me how to do exactly what you want. Here's how:

Keep your microphone plugged into Ch1. Take a 1/4" cable and plug it in to the insert on ch1, but only plug it in until the first "click". This turns the insert into a direct out. Now run that direct out to your sound card's line in.

Now, keep the sound card outs just like you have them: run them to a stereo line in on your mixer, like ch7/8. And finally get rid of the C/R outs to your sound card.

That should do it. Now, the only output coming from your mixer is coming directly from channel 1, and the main mixer bus is reserved for all of the output coming back from your sound card.

Enjoy!

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Since: Jul 20, 2005


Jul 20, 2005 06:34 pm

thanks guys.. but yamaha mg 10/2 doesn't specifically have a separate OUT, not until Tadpui has enlightened me about it.

Sounds really uber weird but cool Tadpui! I'll try out when I get home tonight and report it!

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Since: Jul 20, 2005


Jul 22, 2005 03:53 am

It works!!!!

Theoretically, the Insert Jack allows you to input some manipulating machine, so the vocals recorded will be sent to it, modified, and returned, via the same jack.

But the amazing move here, is to not completely insert that jack, to "utilize" the idea of that, letting us send the vocals to our "machine", which in this case, our soundcard, and possibly the "machine" (soundcard) returning the same thing or nothing (the former is more possible!) Now because of this, I get to record PURE vocals through my soundcard!

Of course, I'm making this conjecture based on a working solution :)

This is a successful thread. Keep it available for MG 10/2 users!

Nice one Tadpui!

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Jul 22, 2005 06:29 am

All threads are kept available, for the most part, in our archive. So you don't gotta worry about that. Glad that things could get sorted for ya, and welcome to HRC

I am not a crook's head
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Since: Mar 14, 2003


Jul 22, 2005 12:17 pm

Hehehe, I felt the same way when I tried it. I usually use 2 mics for acoustic or electric guitar. It's awesome to be able to record and monitor via a single-bus mixer without getting into a feedback loop.

Thanks to whomever it was that showed me how to do it!

Answer:On a good day, lipstick.
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Since: Jun 24, 2004


Jul 22, 2005 06:31 pm

Does that trick work with Behringer mixers too?

Very cool.

eeeeeeemo.
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Since: Oct 30, 2003


Jul 23, 2005 06:03 am

i use this method on my soundcraft desk, works a treat :)

the manual actually describes this setup too, so it's all legit *nods*

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Jul 24, 2005 03:19 pm

It should, Tallchap, just need insert on the channel. It's a pretty common component of boards.

I've been preaching that trick for awhile, it might have been me, though of course, I picked it up from someone else somewhere else, so it's all good.

Makes sense to be able to get into recording cheaper, as most of us aren't able to fork out big $$$ for better boards with multiple outputs.

man of music
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Since: Dec 12, 2004


Jul 26, 2005 08:33 am

i have said mixer along with said problem....i can't hear myself when i record but i'm not gettin yall suggestion

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Jul 26, 2005 10:53 am

Be a little more specific, I'm not sure what part you're having problems with, the mixer? the cable hookup? the inserts? Are you trying to hear what input signal is coming in? the already recorded tracks? What is working so far, and we'll go from there.

man of music
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Since: Dec 12, 2004


Jul 26, 2005 04:31 pm

the mixer...while recording,if i plug headphones in the mixer,i can't hear the music just vocals

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Jul 26, 2005 05:02 pm

descriptive dialog is not your strong suit, eh?

I'll assume you have a computer, with already recorded track(s) on it.

The left and right output from the soundcard (which soundcard?) should be plugged into the last two stereo input jacks on the mixer. Channel 7/8 or channel 9/10. (i'm gonna assume channel 9/10). If you have a consumer grade soundcard, then you'll probably have an 1/8" jack for line out. You will need to get an adaptor that converts 1/8" stereo male, to (2) 1/4" mono male phono-type jacks.

The headphones can be plugged into the headphones jack on the mixer. Adjust level to taste.

This will give you the ability to hear the already recorded tracks from the computer when you press play or record in the software on the computer.

Now, the microphone should be plugged into channel 1 (or 2, or whatever). Seeing as how you already can hear your vocals, I'll assume that this is done already.

Now, how we connect the input signal from the mixer to the computer can be done several ways. One way would be the channel inserts, first click. This would give you individual outs on each channel. A mono 1/4" cable would plug into the insert (only one click), and the other end would plug into the sound card input. You would need as many connections as you have signals, and /or inputs on your sound card. If you're using the consumer grade soundcard, then you'd need a similar adaptor to the one mentioned above, (2) 1/4" mono to 1/8" stereo.

Another way would be to take (2) 1/4" mono jack from the two mains out jacks, and connect this to the left and right input on the card (or channel 1 input, and channel 2 input). You would have to pan channel 1 hard left, and channel 2 hard right on the mixer for the two incoming signals to be separate (assuming you're using two microphones).

After these connections are made, then when you press record in your software, you should be able to hear the incoming signal from channel 1 (and/or 2), plus hear the signal output from the computer, coming in on channel 9/10. You can adjust the mixer sliders to mix the levels, as this wont effect the signal being recorded. Adjust the trim on channel 1 (and/or 2) to get proper level into the computer for recording.

If this has all been done, and still no signal from the computer, then I'd look into the sound card control panel, and make sure the output is being routed to the correct hardware output jacks (m-audio cards come to mind).

Failing all this, a hands-on approach by a skilled engineer would be in order.

I hope this helps.

man of music
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Since: Dec 12, 2004


Jul 27, 2005 07:07 am

i didn't think i had to be that descriptive since i have the same problem as thread author...but i have an audiphile 2496 and yes i think your explanation should help i just have to decipher it

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Jul 27, 2005 10:39 am

cool beans.

Each instance will be different, and usually it helps to hear some input from the actual person running it. No problem though, it's all good.

Hope that gets you in the right ballpark.

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