multiple soundcards

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Member Since: Jul 11, 2005

I own 3 soundcards(terratec EWX 24/96 - m-audio
audiophile 24/96 and emu 0404)and i wonder if i could use them in one pc in order to expand my
i/o cause i want to connect hardware units such as a reverb.thanks........

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Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 11, 2005 08:59 am

Using WDM drivers you should be able to but using ASIO you won't...the only issues I see is possibly IRQ conflicts from so many devices...that may or may not matter, some cards play better with that than others...

Lost for words with all to say.
Contributor
Since: Sep 12, 2003


Jul 11, 2005 09:00 am

Welcome to HRC!

Someone here might be able to prove me wrong here but I think you will be okay. I have two cards in mine (M-Audio 1010 and Aardvark 20/20+) and I do okay. It might get weird or impossible if you want to be able to hear what is going into all cards on your monitors at one time. That is why they make soundboards to make our lives easier!

Lost for words with all to say.
Contributor
Since: Sep 12, 2003


Jul 11, 2005 09:00 am

Ahhhhhh, see, dB to the rescue!

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 11, 2005 09:04 am

:-)

Also, considering the vastly different cards, you will likely get a very different sound out of the three of them...but it will expand your I/O.

Playing the multiple card game is best done with multiple cards of the same make and model, with companies like M-AUdio, they design their card to play well together, so even in ASIO mode you can have up to 4 Delta 1010's in one PC, for example.

However, in the interest of using what you have and not spending money, yes, they should work as we have described.

Member
Since: Jul 11, 2005


Jul 11, 2005 09:28 am

It seems dificult to me and i haven't tried to do this yet because i don't know how sonar will recognize all the drivers (midi-s/pdif etc.)simultaneously...and how it will set a common
latency...and which stereo out is better to send to my monitors...and if you don't know(i bet you do)emu's wdm has a 10ms latency...and if i install them will i be able to see the 3 pannels and set the buffer the same...difidifidificult.
HELP i need somebody.
HELP not just anybody.
HELP i need dbmasterbody...

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 11, 2005 09:32 am

You won't set a common latency, each card will be independent...Sonar will just give you a drop down list of all the cards and drivers available...

Honestly, you'd like be best off selling all of those you have and buying an ESP 1010 or something like that...not that that may be an option, but it would certainly be better than numerous 2 in/2 out cards...

Member
Since: Jul 11, 2005


Jul 11, 2005 09:48 am

Thanks...
the only thing is that i would have 6CH s/pdif ins and 6CH s/pdif outs and 48midich ins and 48midich outs plus the remarkable dsp fx of the emu.Thats the way i had imagined it.
Very disappointed...
Imagine all the soundcards
living life in peace...

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 11, 2005 09:51 am

Yeah, I guess I can see that, if you really need 48 MIDI channels, but, you can get MIDI addon cards and such...I don't use S/PDIF much anymore so I didn't consider that either.

Let me ask you this, is the 48 MIDI channels and 6 S/PDIF I/O something you need, or something that would just "be cool to have"? depending how you answer, what do you "need"?

Member
Since: Jul 11, 2005


Jul 11, 2005 10:01 am

zoom gfx8 software
zoom rfz2000 software
korg m3r needs 3midi ins and three outs.
zoom rfz2000 spdif out.
behringer verb s/pdif in out.
(i know that you'll tell me to sell my hardware
processors and buy uad-1).
i "need" them....
I could propably sell two of 3 and buy m-audio
1010 lt...
money is a crime.......

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 11, 2005 10:04 am

OK, well, won't something like those little M-Audio MIDI buddies work to turn a single MIDI jack into a few? MIDI is not my forte', so I am just tossing out ideas...

Member
Since: Jul 11, 2005


Jul 11, 2005 10:19 am

My friend i'll try to put them all in one (when i find a free time) and i'll inform you about the results...
Until then,Thanks again...
Leon

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 11, 2005 10:21 am

Cool, I'd be cursious to know, there HAS to be an easier way then this...but who knows. S/PDIF isn't easy...you'll need one for each, which sucks...perhaps you can find a good audio I/O, a good S/PDIF I/O and a good MIDI I/O and run different devices, but at least have each medium on it's own unit...

Hmmmm, now this is gonna be in my head all day...

Welcome to HRC.

Member
Since: Jul 11, 2005


Jul 11, 2005 10:39 am

I'am quite a bit old to HRC (2003-2004)but i've lost my acount...Leon used to be my username...
if you still have it
(you may don't...)
erase it if you want...
Thanks again...

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 11, 2005 10:42 am

Yeah, we got a LEON, LEON_X and other variations...

Member
Since: Jul 11, 2005


Jul 31, 2005 08:23 am

ok...everything works with the two cards (Emu0404 and m-audio 24/96)in wdm "mode"...But the problem is that Emu's wdm drivers aren't lower than 10ms,so i'll be waiting next update and i hope Emu's latency become smaller and smaller and.....

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 31, 2005 08:34 am

I am very, very surprised if M-Audio's WDM mode is under 10ms...

Member
Since: Jul 11, 2005


Jul 31, 2005 08:43 am

oh no my friend decibell...
I record in sonar with a latency of 2.7ms and upper with a buffer size of 64 .
SR 48KHz.
DR 24bit.

of course when i use (after recording)FX plug-ins
(even from my uad-1)i have to increase the latency time or playback never starts.....

Why are you surprised......please explain to me...

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 31, 2005 09:01 am

As a rule I have found m-audio WDM drivers to be very poor, unless recent versions have corrected it. I had a 2496 for a long time and dumped it for an ESI Juli@ which, at that time, had FAR better latency and better sound.

VEry rarely do Ihear anyone that has good latency with the WDM drivers from M-Audio...but, aparantly they have been improving that, which is great news.

jimmie neutron
Member
Since: Feb 14, 2005


Jul 31, 2005 04:47 pm

The WDM is an extra layer to go thru, also, which adds to the time factor, Mr. Spock.

Member
Since: Jul 11, 2005


Jul 31, 2005 08:51 pm

I have installed the latest drivers which supports pro-tools m-powered...But i don't remember if i had any problems before
(broblem = not less than 10ms latency).Even my terratec ewx24/96 falls to 3ms...
The prob is whith the Emu.I bought it because i read that its sound is very good but i'm waiting for a driver update...







jimmie neutron
Member
Since: Feb 14, 2005


Aug 01, 2005 10:56 am

I've got an 1820M and want a better driver, also. It seems the EMU gear is more PCI bus "intensive" than others. I've put a bit of effort into getting it going smothly, and succeeded. The sound is awesome. Clean. Now I hear *every* mistake I make... but yeah, the WDM in it is ssslllowwwww...

Member
Since: Aug 21, 2005


Aug 21, 2005 06:34 pm

hi. im new here but i have to give my example.
im working with ableton live and i found a problem and i think i got a solution that can help in yours work.
first i was working on my terratec and was very satisfied cause i was working home. after a while i started working with one hiphop band and needed some "pro" connections. then problems started. after that i decided to buy a new makina. so i bought an amd64 with emu 0404 and i couldnt belive such improvement in sound quality. but then i got a problem with monitoring and prelistenings of samples cause i got only two audio outs. one left and one rigt. other two are spdif. so i could put monitoring for my headphones either in one audio out and loose either right or left channel but it was not an option cause i was working with some panoramas in my performances; or to put my heaphones in spdif. not possible without spdif-> converter.
elswhere i have read that is very dificult to put another card but i figured and also read that is problem with other creative cards but with most of other are ok.
so i put my terratec dmx6fire and connect with emu0404 via spdif so i have sound procesing in emus d/a converter thru dmx directly. also i put in ableton terratec asio and had audio on its 5.1 system. voila!

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