May 11, 2005 01:16 pm I dunno how this will help at all, but I run an Asus MoBo at 333bus speed on Windows XP with an ESI Juli@ sound card and Sonar 4, WaveLab 4, Project 5 and lots of other software...
Need Input
Posted on May 11, 2005 01:14 pm
kerry
Member Since: Dec 12, 2004
I had a previous post with a gapping problem with my system. If everyone could tell me what you are using, it would be really helpful. This problem is driving me crazy.
Type of mother board/bus speed
Operating system
Hyperthread?/CPU speed
Software
Thanks - Kerry
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May 11, 2005 01:16 pm I dunno how this will help at all, but I run an Asus MoBo at 333bus speed on Windows XP with an ESI Juli@ sound card and Sonar 4, WaveLab 4, Project 5 and lots of other software...
May 11, 2005 01:17 pm Gapping problem? Like, when you listen to your recordings it cuts off every couple of seconds?
May 11, 2005 01:52 pm I was using a biostar mb (cheap), 512meg 333mhz memory, athlon 2500+ barton.
windows 2000 workstation
n-track 3.3 24bit, also using FL studio for sequencing, drumming, etc.
kjearhus classic (free, but good) line for compression, reverb.
What was your gapping problem?
May 12, 2005 04:05 am The gapping I'm talking about is when a song skips every now and then for a few seconds. Here's what I'm using -
vegas 2.0
FIC board with 800bus speed
2.8 hyperthread
I gig ram
win 2000
EMU 0404 sound card
80gig master - 250gig slave
I disabled the hyperthread in bios and there is no change with the gapping. Reviews on the web say hyperthread will operate at its optimum with XP and Linux and should be disabled in win 2000. I have XP, haven't installed it yet.
Any ideas or help would be appreciated.
Thanks
May 12, 2005 06:10 am I've got ....
Cubase SX 2
Gigabyte MB 800 Bus speed
P4 3.2 HT
1 GB RAM
Win XP
Delta 1010 LT
Audigy 2 Platinum Pro ZS
Western Digital HD 120 GB
Western Digital HD 80 GB
Your Gear sounds like you should be having no problems.
Seeing as you have XP, bung it on and see how it travels.
I've often got other programs running when i'm recording and i still have no worries.
May 12, 2005 09:11 am it should be working quite well with 2000, i've certainly recorded with way less a system with good results.
How may tracks are being played/ recorded at once.
Actually, when I put my system together, i didn't use the 80pin ide cable, and the 120g drive didn't come up in the ultra-dma high-speed way. I would point my data to the 120 g drive and it would bounce / skip every 3 or 4 seconds. I pointed data to my 13g system drive and it worked.
I've since switched to the 80pin cable, and i could then point data to the 120g drive again. Also, make sure that DMA is turned on for the drives.
Otherwise, be sure to turn off all background apps, (virus, adaware, bonzi, etc,) so they're not trying to do anything while you're recording. Also make sure the system is clean, by running virus, adaware, spam-killers, etc. if there's any chance of a malicious proggie running in the background.
Also, check for updated drivers, though you probably already have.
May 12, 2005 03:03 pm i use an alesis hd 24 with a mackie mixer.
i never record to a pc. this is the reason i dont record on pc. OS failure and software/hardware issues. but i will tranfer files to a pc to edit every now and again.
May 13, 2005 01:13 am I typically run 8 - 10 tracks at a time. It makes no sense for my system to be gapping during playback. All background apps are off during recording and playback. System appears clean considering I run Symantec Corporate Edition virus scan and adaware weekly.
PJK - what is DMA? Do you think a 80pin cable would make that much difference?
Based on what you guys are saying, XP does not seem to have any problems with HT processors. This whole thing has fried my brain. Installing XP seems to be the next thing to try.
Thanks again.
May 13, 2005 06:21 am The 2 biggest issues with computers and audio, in general, seem to be interrupt sharing and PCI bandwidth (which includes SATA & video cards). I've got Win2K, AMD 1.4g in an ECS clone mb, 512m ram, 2 7200 ATA hd, etc. More than double the requirements of my EMU 1820M PCI soundcard. When I first installed it, it worked & I was ecstatic. (It sounds so much better than my old ISIS!) However, once I got to put it thru its paces, my setup showed itself out. Static, pops & gaps (song title, anyone?). I did some research on this and other sites, and set a course of action. I re-installed Win2k the way suggested (ACPI off, etc.). Updated it. Installed the sound card (had to try 2 different slots for the interrupt, since my mb's not configurable). Installed drivers & software, & updated. Installed PCI adjuster program (name now escapes my memory!) and lowered AGP video card PCI "bandwidth" setting to 64 (yes, an AGP card uses PCI bandwidth). All is now well. My soundcard does not share an interrupt and is happy with my PCI bus setup. I have no static, pops & gaps (gypsies, tramps & thieves...)
DMA=Direct Memory Access, the preferred method of communication between your hard drives & the computer. 80 pin cable gets you from ATA33 to ATA66/100. Without it, you're stuck in 1998 (or whenever). Definitely a bottleneck. A combination of those 2 in a DAW would be near-crippling with today's audio interface demands. (And actually, the cable may not be the limiting factor. Both your hard drive(s) & BIOS have to be ATA 66, 100, 133 or whatever, compliant.)
May 13, 2005 10:12 am good post, jmail.
yes, this will give you the hiccups you mentioned. You'd have to go into the bios of the motherboard and ensure that DMA is enabled for the hard drive (and/or IDE controller).
The 80 pin is still 40 pins of connection, but there's a ground between each line, so as to remove interference between lines. This will let the higher speed communication go un-bothered.
Definately fix this if it's not already. I'd do this first, then go back and go through the other points jmail listed. Good stuff, that.
May 17, 2005 10:37 pm And kerry, as a side note. Make sure you go into vegas and check your audio buffer settings. I know a couple of people had a bit of trouble running the 0404 card with now buffer settings. That included playback only.
May 18, 2005 12:21 am And chuck $50 on red for me while your there!
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