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Posted on May 08, 2005 04:45 pm
Renegade
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Hey the other day my pc seemed to go into over drive all fans whent full blast and the temp meter said 116.5 fareniht is that too hot? Im scared somethings wrong with my pc also what too hot for cpu and memory ? farienhieght and Celcius sorry bout the spelling I prolly don't have much time before it goes crazy again it gives me like 20 mins right now were at 109 F...It always used to be at a steady 80-95ish F sorry I don't understand f I need to know how to make the convesion and whats too hot in general
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May 08, 2005 05:19 pm Well, if the average temp is going up, while it's not too bad yet, that is a sign you may want to invest in some new fans and replace the ones you have, or, maybe add one. The best addition I made a while back was a fan that slides in to one of the PCI slots, not using the PCI bus, but just screwing in to the card space, laying right under the graphics card, it moves a ton of air, and doesn't make a lot of noise...and remember, don't have all fans blowing in, that's a common mistake, have 1/2 blowing in and 1/2 blowing out...getting the hot air outta there...
jmailjimmie neutronMember
Since: Feb 14, 2005
May 08, 2005 06:56 pm You may have an excess of dust and dirt building up in the case. If you've got a Pentium chip, your fan could have actually fallen off the heat sink and be flaying in the breeze. Temperatures do rise that quickly without something having come apart or broken. Definitely time to open the case and see what you can find. Checkout sites like www.tomshardware.com and others (including here) for insight into acceptable temps for your particular CPU chip and motherboard.
May 08, 2005 07:17 pm Yeah, I help my dad run his couple of PC's, one in the house and one in his machine shop. The one in the shop, no matter how hard we try, gets pretty dusty, it seems once every few weeks we open 'er up and blow it out. Metal and other dust and grime fills the fins on the heat sinks and coats the blades of all the fans.
Cleaning your PC regularily is a good idea. My last maintenence trip to my dads shop was over the weekend, this time I packed it full of fans, we'll see how that works...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 08, 2005 07:46 pm Agree with dB on the cleaning thing. All PC's in this house get blown out at least every 2 months. The boyz box gets it more sometimes, dont know why their room is so much dustier.
May 08, 2005 07:49 pm Yeah Im sure to allways clean my pc inside and out regularly...bout a week and a half ago was the last time...I also checked to see my fans were working the otherday all was well so Im not sure what the problem is Im not doing any hardcore tasks for the computer to want to work extra hard but thats what its doing.By the way I have two case fans,2 PS fans,a CPU fan/heatsink,and a fan on my videocard,thats 6 fans total so I really am stumpt.any other ideas I read in a book that excessive heat and abnormal performance could mean that a component is malfunctioning.I hope thats not the case I saved up for months to build this thing and it cost me near $5000! if somethings wrong I will be not very happy,thanks for your input guys any more would be great.
May 08, 2005 08:11 pm Yeah, it could be something malfucntioning...but I prefer to start at the most obivous and cheap fixes first rather than shotgun teching...it's usually the simplest things causing the problems.
I would say check your fans again...just to be sure, you can check them a few days ago and nothing is saying one didn't go out after that.
That said...it would seem you have plenty of cooling even if one would go out...
Considering the investment you made, you may want to look into a more hi-tech cooling system than simple fans...there are little air conditioner type of things that fit into drive bays that are quite cool...no pun intended.
May 08, 2005 09:28 pm Thanks,we'll see how it goes in the next few days...I'll checkout those cooling systems aswell,I plan on adding a hard drive and a card reader in the near future mabey trade cases too so I'll get them to run some diagnostics on the parts while Im at it.I'll check in with an update.thanks.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
May 08, 2005 11:52 pm Don't over the obvious either. A drastic change in room temperature and or humidity can have a pretty profound effect on equipment cooling. Traping of ambient airflow in a room is another factor. If the room air is traped around the equipment you are recirculating heated air.
May 09, 2005 02:37 am yeah Im sure the humidity had changed quite a bit recently tho gradually enough for me not to notice but Im sure my machine is just adapting mabey? I dunno it's been ok lately it hasn't gone wacky all day and it's letting me stay on for longer periods of time with out me getting paranoid an turning it off...the old average of 85-95 F now seems to be 105-115 F Im still safe right?Do you know when it should be a cause for consern?
jmailjimmie neutronMember
Since: Feb 14, 2005
May 09, 2005 09:25 am Perhaps a cable is blocking air flow, or a wire is rubbing against your CPU cooler and preventing it from turning. Check your heatsink itself and be sure it's not gotten knocked askew, or worse, had a mount bolt pull thru the board! CPU temps are a "relative" thing. The "acceptable" level for an AMD chip is higher than a Pentium, but a Pentium is better able to handle higher temps (design consideration).
My CPU fan looked like it was plugged in one time (AMD 1.4g), but it wasn't seated completely apparently and came out after "closing". Good thing I had the motherboard monitor on that day! My AMD would have cooked quick. A Pentium isn't nearly as "delicate" as an AMD when it comes to overheating, but it is a situation for IMMEDIATE action.
Hey, dB, sounds like your dad's machine shop is a candidate for an "isolation booth" for the PC box! 5 sided, with a filtered labrynth air intake/output. You could charge a pretty penny for that consulting job!
May 09, 2005 09:30 am Yeah, it would be, the bummer is that by nature the shop can get quite hot too...and isolation would only make it worse in there. Since adding all the fans tho, I am thinking about trying it and seeing how it works. Now he has a couple case fans blowing in and three small 486-sized fans mounted in to an empty drive bay blowing out the front, plus the obvious CPU fan...hopefully all that will help circulate the air through. Now that summer is coming to Minnesota, and his shop sometimes gets excessively hot, this will help him.
I have a meeting with a new client today in the area of our local CompUSA store today, I think after the meeting, if the client accepts a quote, I may stop in and look at good cooling systems a see what kinda prices they gots...for my dad and me...
May 10, 2005 07:41 am Hey, yesterday while at the magazine stand I just noticed that this months issue of Maximum PC has an article about installing a water-cooling system on your computer. I didn't buy it or paghe thru the article yet myself, but I wanted to mention it here in case anyone did want to look at it.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 10, 2005 09:26 pm I would love to get my main system liquid cooled. That is my goal anyway. Then I will be set.
jmailjimmie neutronMember
Since: Feb 14, 2005
May 11, 2005 08:04 pm I got that issue, and it's basically more of the same... Too expensive still, difficult to install, and a bear to get primed. Besides, something about a liquid substance inside a box full of diodes & capacitors with that 117v +- AC that worries me a tad...
May 11, 2005 11:32 pm ^^^ YES im afraid of liquid cooling.
mccartyeeeeeeemo.Member
Since: Oct 30, 2003
May 15, 2005 12:03 pm is the best method of cleaning dust out of a pc to use a can of compressed air? do compressed air products contain anything except air which could harm components?
whilst swapping a few cards round in my pc i noticed everything had gotten a bit of a dust coating and i will be going tdown to maplins on tuesday to buy a few bits and bobs to give it a good clean.
May 15, 2005 01:38 pm it works for me!
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 18, 2005 11:33 pm I unplug my rigs and take em out to the garage and blast em with a big compresor. I used to use one of those tiny little vacumes, but they are almost worthless.
