Other tracks recording in my overdub track
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Posted on Jan 02, 2005 11:46 pm
BJT
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I'm trying to lay down my bass track and the other tracks (playback tracks) are getting recorded on to my bass track too.
I'm using a Behringer UB1832FX-Pro. What exactly should I have my soundcard Left and Right "outs" going in to the mixer? I have my playback tracks routed to the main mix. Then I have my bass channel routed to the main as well as the subgroup.
I've got the signal going back in to the soundcard from the mixer via the subgroup outs. Somethin' just aint right. Everything sounds cool as I'm laying it down, however, when I just play the bass track back I can hear the playback tracks as well.
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Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 03, 2005 12:03 am It sounds like you are routing the main mix, or the two channels from the sound card back to the sub outs as well.
You should only have the channel'(s) that are for the instrument being recorded routed to the sub outs. And make sure the sub outs are not routed to the main outs. This will only add a second set of audio to the mains as they are allready hearing the audio coming from the outputs of the sound card.
And here is the key. You dont say what you are using for a sound card so I will asume for now you are using the stock card or a sound blaster type card. You will need to go into the windows sound control and select options/recording and make sure the line out and what you hear items are not selected. This will probably be what is causing the echo.
Jan 03, 2005 10:07 am Hey Noize2U - Thanks for the reply. I'm using an M-Audio Studiophile 2496.
My two playback tracks or my two input channels are not routed to the sub outs. At least the sub buttons are not engaged. My cables are going from the sub outs back to the soundcard ins. So I'm assuming this means that my sub outs are not routed to the main outs.
Thanks for the help. I know it's something so simple.
Jan 03, 2005 10:13 am I have a two input card and the 1622 and here is what I do:
The main outputs of the card go to stereo input set of the 1622, that channel strip is assigned to the main outs, and the main outs go to the amp/speakers.
ALl other channels are instument inputs, DI boxes, mocirophones and all the crap I record. They are all assigned to the sub outs. The sub outs then go to the inputs of the sound card.
Then none of the playback stuff is going to the line ins, as they are main outs only, only channels assigned to the sub outs are going to the inputs of the card.
Jan 03, 2005 12:33 pm db - The clouds are parting and I see the light!! You are the man!
That makes sense and it is all common sense if you just sit and think about it. Duhh! I now see the errors of my ways..."Thank you sir, may I have another." I'm sure this is the 100th time you've answered similar questions like this and I appreciate your patience. When I go home tonight I'll give this a shot...
I think you and I have very similar setups. I saw your 3-picture set up of your studio that you posted on one of these strings...pretty cool.
Jan 03, 2005 12:37 pm Thanks, yeah, we do have similar setups.
Signal routing is a mind-screw at first, but like with you, once those clouds part it all comes together in one big, fast and heavy realization.
Glad to help.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 03, 2005 11:55 pm Indeed, routing is a pain to figure out sometimes. Then you throw in the routing through the software as well and it gets really confusing. Echos and loopbacks can come from not only hardware now but from the software it feeds as well as the hardware audio interface as well.
Glad you are getting throug it though.
Jan 04, 2005 12:32 am Hey db & Noize,
I spoke too soon. I'm still getting the "main mix" in my overdub track. I've got my sub outs going into the soundcard. I know I've got everything routed correctly. Only the bass track is routed to the subs. I don't have the playback tracks routed to the sub. The playback tracks are going into the stereo channel on the mixer. Everything seems to be independent of each other when I play with the levels. It's only when I record (into ACID 3.0) that both the playback tracks and my "fresh" recorded bass track are all together.
In the studiophile 2496 soundcard, the patchbay router, both settings are set to "monitor mixer". Hmmmmm. It's got to be deeper somewhere. Stumped.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Jan 04, 2005 12:48 am I am wonering if there is an option in the audio preferances of Acid that is running a monitering through the software. I know you can do that in Sonar and it can cause a headache that way.
Just for kicks turn off the moniter mixer and route straight to the WavOut instead. See if that does the trick.
Jan 04, 2005 11:33 am Thanks a ton Noize-
What is so bizarre is that the "playback" tracks are not audible at all when I raise the faders on sub tracks 1+2. Only my "fresh" bass track can be heard in the sub channels. I've got my sub outs going into the soundcard. But after I record my bass track and play it back, the "playback" tracks are right in there with the bass track. It's like listening to the total mix on my bass track. Ugh!
I'll try your suggestion of routing to the WavOut on the soundcard software. I know dB uses a Behringer mixer...has he run into this at all? Is there something on the mixer that is engaged that shouldn't be?
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Jan 04, 2005 06:33 pm I also run a larger Behringer desk, and it sounds to me like you have your routing correct. So unless the change in the software fixes it I will be stumpped as well.
Jan 05, 2005 11:19 am Hey Noize,
Thanks a again for your help. I got it all working last night. I was hearing the "playback" tracks on my recorded track because of the settings within ACID. I had to choose the soundcard within the Recording Device dropdown. Anyway, it's all working...thanks again.
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Jan 06, 2005 05:29 pm Didn't read the whole thread as it's getting late, but i use groups 1&2 for in and 3&4 for out, obviously sending mics and DIs to 1&2.
