Dec 02, 2004 01:26 pm I like to put SM57's straight on aiming at the middle of the cone...er, the top illustration on the right at www.homerecordingconnecti..._story&id=8
Mic placement on 4x12 1960A
Posted on Dec 02, 2004 01:23 pm
jackson5
Member Since: Nov 22, 2004
First off I'd like to thank everyone for their help with my previous problem.
Now that I've finally got my MIDI setup rolling, I'm trying to record some guitar. I'm running a SM-57 at roughly 45 deg angle to the bottom left corner of my #3 (1 being top left, 2 being top right, etc. the bottom left of cone #3) 12" in the 1960A but it continually sounds "tinny" no matter where I place it. It sounds great when I stand behind the cab and play, any suggestions on moving the mic behind? I've also tried moving it away from the cab but it seems to sound better right up on the tolex.
Any help is appreciated as I need to get some recording done this weekend. Let me know if any other info is needed.
thanks
J5
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Dec 02, 2004 01:26 pm I like to put SM57's straight on aiming at the middle of the cone...er, the top illustration on the right at www.homerecordingconnecti..._story&id=8
Dec 02, 2004 01:32 pm thanks dB, I'll print that out and give it a try tonight. Hopefully that will give me a more rounded and fuller sound.
Dec 02, 2004 01:35 pm for a fuller sound, use two mics and record them one separate tracks to mix together...
Dec 02, 2004 01:37 pm you say you add a boost at the 2K level, in my case being kinda tinny, would you suggest I 'role back' any levels? I'm also using a BBE, Xpression and high gain modded MP-1. The BBE is dialed in at around 8 o'clock for lo and around 10 o'clock for high. I love my tone, just need to figure out how to enrich it
Dec 02, 2004 01:38 pm I guess I'll look into another SM-57 this weekend. and try the setup you mentioned regarding the AB's
Dec 02, 2004 01:41 pm I prefer a different mic from an SM57 and setting it back a few feet to catch more of the rooms ambience, a condensor being the best option...and yes, I like boosting around 2k cuz it adds sizzle to the sound (when distortion is being used...
look thru the tips, there are a couple great articles regarding EQing in there...
Dec 03, 2004 01:41 pm I played with the mic placement last night and it sounds better. Thanks for the tips regarding this.
I also found a great site regarding eq'ing
techniques. Don't know if you can link to this from here but I thought it was usefule and it may help someone out.
eq:
www.recordingwebsite.com/articles/htmyhrp.php
It is all a trial by error learning process that indeed takes time to perfect. I'm getting closer each day :)
j5
Dec 03, 2004 01:52 pm The tips I"ve picked up for recording distorted electric guitar:
-back off on the gain. Your sound will actually be more full-bodied if you take some of the grit off of your amp by backing off on the distortion. Grit does not record well, and it does not sit well in a mix.
- For mic placement, towards the perimiter of the cone = bottom end; towards the center of the cone = high end. Find a balance that you like.
- Boost the mids on your amp.
- Try to get a single mic setup to sound good before trying a multi-mic setup...it just adds complication to an already complicated process.
- For heavier guitar parts, record the track once and pan it hard left. Then record it again and pan it hard right. The subtle differences in the 2 performances add a lot of character to the sound, and the stereo seperation adds a lot of depth to it.
- Remember that when you're micing a cabinet, what you hear in the room and what the mic hears when its right up on the grill are 2 totally different sounds. Less gain and more mids are good for close micing.
- If you do it right, you shouldn't need much (if any) eq-ing, other than to notch it for the vocals.
- you might even ditch the BBE for recording purposes...those things are designed to alter the perception of different frequency ranges to make them more pleasing to the ears, which might not necessarily do any favors for your sound when you're recording it with a mic that's 1/2" away from the speaker cone.
Dec 03, 2004 08:06 pm Hey Jackson5,
One more tip that is critical and is sure to help you find the sweet spot. You already have the better mic for recording guitars (SM57). Use the mic about an inch or two (on axis - pointing pretty much directly at the cone center). Now if you put your headphones on and monitor the sound you're getting when nothing is being played, look for the strongest hiss sound you can get. It sounds backwards, but that is your sweet spot when you start playing. If you're trying to eliminate hiss while placing the mic you're gonna get a tinny sound.
- Hope this helps.
Jim
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