What is wrong with my mic!?

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Member Since: Oct 21, 2004

OK, I just bought a brand new Apex 170 Condenser. It was recommended to me by the salesperson at the music shop because it was very suitable for studio vocals. I am recording in CEP, but I mean, my old mics sounded better than this one! I know there has to be some setting or some configuration or SOMETHING that would explain the noise I'm getting. It's more static than anything else. I tried 4 different cables, with no luck. It's running on a battery since I have no mixer with Phantom power, plus it's connected directly to my computer. If someone would be so kind as to try and help me fix this problem it would be greatly appreciated, since I paid almost $200 for this mic I don't want it to be a waste. My AIM s/n is "Yo I Be Lynxxx" . I can send you a sample of recorded silence if you think you could better understand it that way. Thanks in advance guys!

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Hello!
Member
Since: Jan 12, 2004


Oct 21, 2004 01:09 pm

Id guess you need a preamp with phantom power before you'll get the mic to work.

You say you have no phantom power so I'd guess that'll be the prob and the PC wont have any phantom power.

Hope this helps

Coco.

Member
Since: Oct 21, 2004


Oct 21, 2004 01:13 pm

Well it IS battery powered OR Phantom powered. Would the usage of the battery cause the static or noise that I am getting, I mean I can record and everything, just doesn't have that pro sound I'm looking for. I can get a better sound from my dictation mic. Maybe it's my sound card?

Bohemian
Member
Since: May 04, 2003


Oct 21, 2004 01:15 pm

My guess ít's picking up the noise from your computer fan
and possibly your sound card ain't made for recording.

If you fill out your gear profile we can see what your stuff is so we can help you in all possible ways we can

but My guess is on the soundcard and computer fan
(cuz a Condenser is way more sensitive than a normal dynamic mic, which is why it picks up even a computer fan)

Greets!

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 21, 2004 01:22 pm

What is your sound card?

What type of preamping are you using?

Member
Since: Oct 21, 2004


Oct 21, 2004 01:27 pm

See, that's where I get embarrased. I'm just using a stock ESS Allegro soundcard, with no preamping. I have a real nice guitar amp I could use as a preamp, but I find it doesn't produce the right sound I'm looking for. But all that aside, I tried this mic on my Audigy board and it still sounded the same. In windows mixer I always have +20db boost on for the mic. But when I take it off, the volume isn't near loud enough to hear anything when mixed, and when I normalize it to a higher volume, u can hear the static still.

Bohemian
Member
Since: May 04, 2003


Oct 21, 2004 01:30 pm

for quality
you should get way better results using the audigy board
but the static I think it's the fan
try moving it from and to the computer
see if the static goes louder or softer


Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 21, 2004 01:35 pm

...and a preamp is entirely necessary...even if it's not the perfect one.

Member
Since: Oct 21, 2004


Oct 21, 2004 01:37 pm

Just moved it from the computer, no difference...

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Member
Since: Oct 21, 2004


Oct 21, 2004 01:37 pm

Why is a preamp necessary?

And how cheap should I be able to get one?

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 21, 2004 01:40 pm

Because a preamp is what gives your microphone a decent line-level strength with which to record it. If your guitar amp has a direct out, use it, if not, you can get a little mixer pretty cheap that will have preamps in the mono channels such as this service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear to handle your preamping, and it's only about $50 USD.

it also sound like there could be a grounding problem...

Member
Since: Oct 21, 2004


Oct 21, 2004 01:43 pm

My guitar amp is a Fender FRontman amp. It has an 8 ohm Min. Ext. Speaker jack, and a headphone jack. Grounding? What's that? You are smart...too smart for me hahaha

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Oct 21, 2004 01:47 pm

I ain't smart, just an idiot savant.

OK, so your amp does not have a direct out, so that won't work.

Grounding is something in your electrical system of your house, or room, or the specific outlet you are plugged in to...it's beyond the music gear, and may not be the problem, just sorta sounds like it...

Your first issue should be preamping...and a power conditioner for your gear might be nice to, another few bucks...under $100

Member
Since: Oct 21, 2004


Oct 21, 2004 01:56 pm

Grr they don't ship to Canada, plus it has to be COD Payment hahaha

Frisco's Most Underrated
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Since: Jan 28, 2003


Oct 21, 2004 03:23 pm

I will throw in my 2 cents and say it sounds like you need some sort of preamplification.

Your favorite rockstar
Member
Since: Feb 03, 2003


Oct 22, 2004 04:58 pm

Get a preamp. You can get inexpensive ones all over the web. Then go into the line-in on your computer instead of the mic-in.

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