live bands Live Up Too There Name ???
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Posted on Sep 23, 2003 08:24 pm
Sds2000
Member Since: Jul 17, 2003
Hey guys do you live bands in the rock scean live up to there music and there name when they are playing live gigs ???.
Some i hear are really amazing and some are soo poor its not funny. Why is that ?.
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Sep 23, 2003 08:58 pm I would suppose it has to do with the fact that recording and live gigging are so different. You can sound great on a CD with a good producer, good equipment, and all the time in the world to work on perfecting your music, but then you can go up on stage and not even know how to connect with your bandmates because you haven't played together enough.
Sep 23, 2003 09:12 pm Also the fact that everyone is entitled to a bad gig or two as well, I am sure any of us here that have played in bands long enough have a few horror stories about a bad crowd, bad night, bad sound guy, bad dope or something that made a gig go horribly wrong...
glynbMember
Since: Dec 16, 2002
Sep 24, 2003 06:02 am Well the way it used to work is a band would paly live, learn how to do that, build up a following, get interest from managers, record companies, get signed then produce their first record. However, many acts these days (especialy manufactured ones but not exclusively so) just go from the bedroom/garage to the live gig scene on the strength of producing a good demo. They have not had time to learn the craft of performing on stage to entertain people - so when they get out there they disapoint.
It's my belief that live eprformance will become much more important in future with music piracy and declining music sales. A live gig is the one 'experience' that cannot be ripped and pirated and given way on the internet, when you buy a ticket for a gig you are buying a service and each time it's unique. Bands should learn how to play live by starting at the bottom in bars and working their way up, IMO, like an aprenticeship.
Sep 24, 2003 06:08 am I think many people underestimate the dues some of these fabricated bands and performers have paid. Not that I support the fabricated bands, but many of the members have been performing since they were children and do have a VAST amount of experience performing. People are mislead because the band that made them famous was new and had a quick raise to fame.
You look at someone like Justin Timberlake, who is about as fabricated as you can get, he has been performing since about age 5. His music is very synthetic and very over-produced, no "soul" to it at all. BUT, in all fairness when it comes to experience, he has it. Same goes for most of the members of the boy bands of late, Britney Spears, Christina A. and many others...
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Sep 24, 2003 10:31 am I've had my share of horror stories and I've seen some terrible bands that thought they were great.
The main difference I've seen in a good and and a regularly sucky band is practice/performance experience and the desire to learn their instrument and music.
To me performing is very similar to practice in that it IS a learning experience. Typically you learn what it's like to be critizised :)
I saw a band that practiced in a basement twice a week for three years play their first show. Essntially they were terrible, but most people take "it being their first show" into account. However, three years of basement practice doesn't really prepair you the way a week of performance will for playing live.
Sep 25, 2003 02:13 pm I think that one of the worlds best perfomers is Robbie Willames now this guy knows how to entertaina crowd and boy can he sing.
I loved the SWing When Your Wining concert with him doing swing music that rocked.
Also i don't know how these people on shows l ike Amercain Idol can just stand still when t hey are sining in front hundereds of people doesn't the music take you away get you pummed well these people don't show any of that really i think all of them were boaring in terms of performance but Clay should of won what a voice.
What is a good way to pratice with your band to best simulate a live concert to you don't complet ly muff it on the acuall day.???
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Sep 26, 2003 10:24 am I think the best way to practice is to set up how you would during a performance. Drummer in the back with the singer all they way up front with amps facing forward. this way the drummer doesn't get used to watching the wrist of the rythem guitarist or whoever he follows for tempo... and the guitars don't get used to watching the drummer. Everone should stand up unless they are going to sit on stage and they should organize their cables as to not trip over them. Then my old band would run through the set list we were going to play... and we played certain songs in specific orders so we had an opener and a closer etc. People really liked that... they seem to like to know what to expect... makes them feel comfortable... but we had a written setlist no matter what so we could start right into the next song with out a pause... used stick clicks as little as possible (uh never if I remember) and used subtile visual cues for starting. Everyone had an area where they could be on the stage nobody was allowed to wander around the entire stage...prevents tangled cords and tripping and upstaging.
main point... practice how you want to play and there will be fewer suprises...
Sep 26, 2003 11:02 am argh, sounds like the makings of a very rigged, fabricated performance. The most fun I ever had on stage and most of the best gigs went off without a song list at all. Not being allowed to wander is way to constricting. I would wander back and forth and all over the place, If I was told where I could be and where I couldn't be it would really be a distraction.
I personally believe in some spontaneous tunes and such, makes for a better, more productive and entertaining gig for us and the audience. It gives room for people to shout out requests, maybe a singer in the audience to bounce up on stage and do a number...makes it fun.
Sep 26, 2003 03:24 pm lol really good ideas thanks guys very funny how i think you are both right but probly under difrent situations as in venu age of audence ect so yea cheers ill take it all in
