Stupid Rookie Question

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Phatso
Member Since: Mar 31, 2003

Ok....I've read Blue's article on EQ and I get everything he's saying. (Terrific job Blue!) But what do you do when you've got more than one track of the same instrument competing for frequency? Is that something to be worked out with EQ, or would that be better accomplished with panning or something entirely else? I love layered guitar parts in songs and I have a few tracks recorded which sound great live or individually, but I just cant get them to mix correctly. If any of you have got ideas, please feel free to expound in detail what you do to make this work. Its kinda vital to my whole future recording career. ;) Thanx

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Bane of All Existence
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Since: Mar 27, 2003


Jul 30, 2003 06:53 pm

panning is a great option for that.

...bringing sexy back
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Since: Jul 01, 2002


Jul 30, 2003 07:35 pm

yeah. i'd pan...

Phatso
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Since: Mar 31, 2003


Jul 30, 2003 08:07 pm

Ok....I would probably leave the rythym panned center, and pan any other parts left or right? Would I pan them hard left or right? Hmmm...I'll try it out and see how it sounds. Thanx

a.k.a. Porp & Mr. Muffins
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Since: Oct 09, 2002


Jul 30, 2003 10:53 pm

Actually, rhythem usually sounds best when it's doubled up (pretty much the same thing recorded twice) and panned L and R. Then you can put lead in the center.

Phatso
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Since: Mar 31, 2003


Jul 31, 2003 01:17 am

Hmmmm...makes sense. And I guess the other layers could be panned not quite so hard left or right. I'll try your idea.

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Since: Dec 16, 2002


Jul 31, 2003 05:53 am

Sometimes something gets 'lost' in the mix and the temptation is to push up the fader till you can hear it. then it starts to get too loud for the vocal for example so you push the vocal up and so on, ruining the mix.

The answer can be to pan the offending instrument left or right, experiment, and sometimes you find a little space for it where you can hear it and it doesn't compete as much with whatever else is on the same frequency range.

I'm just mixing a song with doubled up heavy chords (electric), doubled up acoustic chords, keyboard (organ) all of which are competing against each other. I'm still experimenting and find that using headphones is best to do the panning and find the best place for everything, though of course you must listen on speakers for the 'proper' check. So far I have put the heavy chords hard left/right, acoustics 3/4 left right and keyboard slightly off centre left (say 15%) with occasional lead guitar the same but right.

I think balance is the key, if you put something slightly to the right, then try to balance it with something equaly off to the left and so on. After all it would sound strange in a practice room if most of the players were stood in one corner of the room with the odd one in the opposite corner, you need to have them in front of you, but spread out slightly.

'Course, I'm no expert, just a dabbler!

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