dollars and sense - planning DAW modest project studio

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sloppy dice, drinks twice
Member Since: Aug 05, 2003

So I'm at a bit of a crossroads... I'm planning to pickup an i7 laptop, using that as the backbone of my studio 2.0. I plan to record mostly direct line-in, but may use 3 or 4 mics when recording drums. I will also record acoustic guitar occasionally, and have a penchant for adapted instruments such as washboards, tubs, and other junk percussion goodies. I will be recording one instrument at a time. It would be good to be able to adjust my drum mic levels after recording, but I'm not sure how much I would need to upgrade in order to record multiple tracks at once. I will be using hand drums and a reason-generated drum track for my rythymns. I really like the Line6 Variax guitars and I may pick up one of those.

I have the following concerns, and I'm wondering if I can get some input on the following (or the above, for that matter)...

I am at a loss as to what kind of mics to purchase. Also, I'm thinking of sticking with Line6 & getting a ux6 or equivalent. Would that ux6 allow recording multiple tracks at once via the usb out? Will the ux6 basically replace a mixer in this type of setup? Would I still need a separate preamp device for direct-in guitars?

Thanks in advance for your replies. I think I'm about to take a trip to Guitar Center.

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Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 27, 2012 10:24 am

UX 6 ? Can't say as though I know of a Line 6 device called the UX 6?

sloppy dice, drinks twice
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Since: Aug 05, 2003


Sep 27, 2012 10:35 am

I guess I mean the Line6 UX8, sorry...

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 27, 2012 10:38 am

Oh, heck, dude, that should totally replace your mixer with all the modeling of amps, preamps and such...I still have my KB37 and I sold my mixer long ago with zero regrets...Line 6 makes great gear, and your mixing can easily be done within your software...unless you have wacky monitoring needs, in which case some outboard level control might be useful.

sloppy dice, drinks twice
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Since: Aug 05, 2003


Sep 27, 2012 10:53 am

I will probably monitor with headphones. I don't know if I want to record effects or just assign them to the dry recorded track afterward though. I used to do that, just adding some distortion to the monitored signal to get a feel for what I was playing. Can the ux8 do that?

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 27, 2012 10:57 am

You can record just straight thru, yes, totally dry. Actually, that is how it's done by default, I personally add modelling and effects at the track level within the software...disable all that, you have a dry track.

sloppy dice, drinks twice
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Since: Aug 05, 2003


Sep 27, 2012 11:22 am

Thanks man, I appreciate the input. Any thoughts on studio mics? I figure I at least need a shure sm57. After that I don't know. Know of any good overhead mics for under $200?

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 27, 2012 11:23 am

I have done so much direct recording and sequencing and such the last few years I have completely lost track of the microphone industry...there will be no shortage of opinions from others though, I am sure.

Byte-Mixer
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Since: Dec 04, 2007


Sep 27, 2012 12:15 pm

SM57 is a good utilitarian mic for sure. For an overhead, well, Colonel Sanders recommended me looking at the SE Electronics stuff, and they're pretty good. I think the SE 2200A MkII C is about $250, and the X1 is a bit cheaper. I used the 2200A in a live recording as a single overhead mic for the kit, and it turned out pretty nicely. I don't have an X1, so can't really comment on it. I know Colonel uses them, and I think they would probably suit your overhead need just fine.

If you want a different "flavor" that is similar but different to eh sm57, look at the Heil PR20 or 22. Be warned though, the PR20 has a lot of handling noise as it's the model that was before the guy started adding sorbothane (spelling?) as a noise reduction around the diaphragm.

Some have called it an sm57 with balls. I haven't tried one myself yet, but I may get one in the near future, or possibly the PR22.

I'd look at the "UT" line of Heil mics since it doesn't add the fluff like extra grills and crap, so they end up being a bit cheaper. Same mic though. So a PR20 = PR20UT just sans fluff.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 27, 2012 01:27 pm

For some reason, I knew I could count on J-Bot to pop in.

There is a pretty good discussion on mics that is not too far down the list.

sloppy dice, drinks twice
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Since: Aug 05, 2003


Sep 27, 2012 03:59 pm

Thanks guys, I appreciate the input. Been doing a little reading of reviews... the "studio projects LSM" has some nice features and a good review... I'm a bit swayed by the notion that with the USB out, this could be my "traveling Mic" that doesn't need me to lug the ux8 around, if recording at my buddy's house. It is said to have full low end as well, which might help out my little hand drums and buckets and whatnot. I'm thinking of a mono overhead and an sm57 for the drums currently. I'm going to check out the Heil mics you suggested, Jbot - I like flavored mics just fine, if it adds a good flavor for my purposes. Big studios can afford pro sound, I'm just looking to have a decent sound that lets you hear everything in the mix.

Mics are definitely one of my weakest areas of knowledge, right after MIDI and piano...

edit0r
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Since: Aug 17, 2004


Sep 29, 2012 07:51 pm

The Heil is a great suggestion. If I only had one mic, it would be the Shure SM7b (similar sound to Heil pr). Sounds great with everything (Drums/Vocals/Guitars), though you need a good pre if you're recording whisper quiet.

Same as J-Bot, I like sE2000's on overheads. They're also great workhorse mics.

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