Superior Drummer & Cubase LE4
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Posted on Nov 28, 2009 10:59 am
stratwizard
Member Since: Nov 19, 2008
I am planning on purchasing Superior Drummer;
1 - Does it work with Cubase LE4
2 - My computer is Windows XP AMD3800+(2Ghz) 512 MB ram. Even though the ram is below minimum system req. is there a chance for it to still work?
any help is greatly appreciated (sale ends on the 30th)
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Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 28, 2009 05:19 pm SD 2.0 sadly really needs that RAM as do any VSTi these days. I would say you can try it but odds are it is going to be extremely unstable and will probably cause some noise issues as well.
Even bumping up to 1 gig would help a great deal.
Nov 28, 2009 05:23 pm Hmm. I highly doubt it will. At least not well. You could cut all the bleed in the mics, keep your kit at minimum pieces. That'd cut back on the ram quite a bit. But even then you'd be so low on ram it'd be tough to operate anything else. Plus i mean, if you cut out on a lot of the mic sounds and everything, its not going to sound any more impressive than EZ Drummer which is the same price, maybe not even as good.
That being said, i really do like this program. I got it during the sale as well. It sounds incredible. My advise to you would be purchase it, and maybe upgrade your ram. Ram is super cheap these days. I'm on 2 gigs at the moment and its starting to not be enough (i use a lot of plugins and VSTi's though, and superior is my biggest drain).
I think RAM is around $60 for 4 gigs, $35 for 2. It should be easy to install (you're on a desktop right?) and i'm sure the good people here could walk you threw it.
Welcome to HRC :]
Nov 28, 2009 07:36 pm unfortunately I have an old laptop; would have been easier if it were a desktop to upgade ram...
Any idea if superior drummer will work with cubase le 4?? it says on the website that it hasnt been tested for le4
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Nov 28, 2009 08:36 pm SD2 is pretty brutal on the CPU, the effects in the mixer are big time hogs.
The good thing with SD2 though is when you have your drum track completed you can use the bounce function.
it basicly bounces your midi files to audio and saves it to your designated file.
then you simply import those waves back into your project.
that really takes a load off the CPU.
it should work on LE4, i use Cubase 4 and it seems fine.
512 ram though will give you grief for sure.
is that stock 512 or upgraded to 512?
pretty much any drum software you try to run will give you grief on 512.
im pretty sure you can upgrade ram on lapys though eh?
Nov 28, 2009 10:48 pm it came with 512MB, it should be upgradable to 2GB, but I am looking into that
Nov 28, 2009 11:13 pm Hmm. Yeah you're probably right deon :] idk why i assumed you couldn't upgrade ram on a lappy. If thats in your price range, i'd recommend doing that and getting S2.0
But that said, do you like tweaking sounds or are you more for a plug & play type of thing? There are certainly quite a few options on drum programs out there. S2.0 is a pretty simple program to use, nice and easy. But excellent tonal variation between all the microphones, you mix them all in, and they have some bleed between microphones. But there are other options out there.
Get on that research fast! You've got two days to decide. I would recommend upgrading that ram for just about any VSTi though. 512 is pretty weak on a computer anymore (which is sad, 5 years ago 512 was great for RAM! but hey, the estimated physical max for ram is something like 17 billion gigs. so we'd better get used to it!)
Nov 29, 2009 08:48 am you are right on I bought the lap top exactly 5 years ago and 512 was like the way to go during that time :)
Does Superior drummer work as a standalone program when used for triggering with electronic drums (wihtout opening another program like cubase)???
I was planning on recording the drums by triggering the drums using an electronic drumset.
The music I make is rock and what i want is to have realistic drum sounds in my recordings. its a real turnoff for me when I listen to my tracks and be annoyed by the cheap electronic drum sounds in the back; doesnt reflect the feeling.
Nov 29, 2009 12:49 pm Yupp :] They've got a standalone player. What soundcard/ audio interface (interfaces become your soundcard) are you using though? To trigger good enough to play live with those sounds you'll need a low latency ASIO driver, which many have :]
Actually, while you're at it could you fill out your gear bio thing on HRC? It'd really help us to know what gear you have and what you need.
To trigger the sounds and record them you'll also need a cheap midi to usb interface, they aren't hard to find.
If you don't have a low lag driver and can't afford the interface, midi cable, and drum program; you could just simply program the drums for right now. Its not that difficult really. What i usually do is trigger the sounds on my roland, set my program to quantize at like 16th notes typically, then go in and fix my sloppy playing ;] I imagine a very very good drummer could get a better "feel" on his playing without using quantize. But me, i'm a songwriter (and a perfectionist haha). Plus superior (and cubase's editor as well i believe) have built in features to throw the performance off by fractions of a beat to make it seem very realistic.
Alright, i'm getting sidetracked. Fill out the bio if you could and tell us exactly what you're trying to get here, we'll help you out today so you can decide if you should get that deal on S2.0 and offer any other advice.
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Nov 30, 2009 03:47 am If you have SD2 load the samples as 16bit and stick with a small kit you *might* get it too load in a machine with 1GB of ram but you wouldn't have much left for anything else. EZDrummer would probably be a better bet for you.
You can load either EZD, or SD2 in Toontrack Solo for use as a stand alone, but it won't record what you're doing. And as Fragile points out unless you have a good audio interface with low latency you're going to run into problems there.
Dan
Nov 30, 2009 02:22 pm I bought SD2 and got it working with 512MB (TASCAM US144 interface)... thats the good new but ofcourse I have to run it in 16 bit and not wiht a full blown drum set. I dont have enough triggers for that anyhow. But not able to record due to memory issues, but I can practice with it. I am having fun so far cant wait to upgrade my computer and start recording.
However there is something that concerns me; on the website it says that I quote "Recorded by Pat Thrall, Neil Dorfsman, and Nir Z at Hit Factory, Avatar Studios, and Allaire Studios, NY", but when I installed (I did the complete install which was close to 19GB) the program only has NY Avatar Sudios and thats it. There is no Allaire Studios or Hit factory like it says on the website (guitarcenter where I bought my copy)... Did I miss something or is this wrong advertising???
And by the way I can't do anything on my profile cause the buttons on the top are underneath another set of buttons, which doesnt make sense. This happened after I updated my internet explorer (MS made me do it).
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Dec 01, 2009 01:39 am Click the compatibility mode button in the Address bar of IE to fix your button problem.
I never payed much attention as far as the kits included. There are multiple kit pieces which may have been recorded at different studios. There's more than I can use with whats there so I'm not worried about it. :)
Dan
Dematrixhttp://www.reverbnation.com/2ndgMember
Since: Nov 27, 2007
Dec 01, 2009 04:46 am i had the same problem with the friggin thing. SD2.
you havent installed the EZplayer pro that comes with it.
i gave up trying to get a ******** actual specific answer to my question about it but was told you can go to your account in toontrack and download it from there separatley.
i dont know if you can reinstal it as a custom off the dvd or not, coz its like talking to a chimp with these guys, but they did tell me that in the coming days there is an updated version of EZPlayer available so i was gonna wait for that.
it'd better work this time.
Dec 01, 2009 11:26 am Hmm. I have no idea on that actually. I'll look into it today, that may help us both out haha :]
One thing you might be getting wrong though (more like allusive advertising :\) is maybe the other two studios are put on the expansion pack. If you seriously want the expansion for S2.0 be aware through december it and metal foundry are half off this month only :] I personally like the drum sounds enough on S2.0, with the several instruments they give you, compression, and adjusting the mics, you can easily make them fit any style of music.
Plus i'm getting this "storm drums" package from east west soon :] which has tons of interesting percussion, and they claim it has the recorded kit metalica used and several other kits, so i think my percussion section will be quite strong in all my songs now ;]
Oh but hey, back on track, i'm glad you were able to get by on 512 ram! It really wouldn't be a bad idea to upgrade if you have the cash, but hey if it works it works! As someone else stated earlier, once you have a good take on the drums and you like how they sound, "produce" them and get as good of a sound as you can, then bounce the track so its no longer taking up ram if you ever start to run out and need it for other plug ins.
Dec 01, 2009 11:26 am Hmm. I have no idea on that actually. I'll look into it today, that may help us both out haha :]
One thing you might be getting wrong though (more like allusive advertising :\) is maybe the other two studios are put on the expansion pack. If you seriously want the expansion for S2.0 be aware through december it and metal foundry are half off this month only :] I personally like the drum sounds enough on S2.0, with the several instruments they give you, compression, and adjusting the mics, you can easily make them fit any style of music.
Plus i'm getting this "storm drums" package from east west soon :] which has tons of interesting percussion, and they claim it has the recorded kit metalica used and several other kits, so i think my percussion section will be quite strong in all my songs now ;]
Oh but hey, back on track, i'm glad you were able to get by on 512 ram! It really wouldn't be a bad idea to upgrade if you have the cash, but hey if it works it works! As someone else stated earlier, once you have a good take on the drums and you like how they sound, "produce" them and get as good of a sound as you can, then bounce the track so its no longer taking up ram if you ever start to run out and need it for other plug ins.
