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Posted on Apr 16, 2009 06:43 pm
SirEnvy
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Hey guys, love this site, great for help! I am wondering what would you guys recommend for editing tracks that I record from my BOSS BR-900CD...I currently have Fruit Loops, but its hard to use sometimes, anything you would recommend, or should I stick with fruity loops..
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Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Apr 16, 2009 09:15 pm Are you looking for freeware or a pay for app.
On the shareware side you have Reaper which a few here have been using and seem to really like.
On the moderate side and much easier to use and learn then FL is something from Cakewalk. wwww.cakewalk.com
They have entry level application's such as Home Studio on up to the full on Pro level program I use Sonar 8 Producer Edition. Have a look there and if you have any question's on it feel free to ask.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
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Apr 17, 2009 12:06 pm Depends really, I love Adobe Audition but it does cost a bit. As Noize mentioned you could go with Reaper or Krystal for share\freeware.
SirEnvyBEAST MODE [ON] OFFMember
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Apr 17, 2009 03:34 pm I know Noize is a great source, he helped me out picking out some great monitors....but adobe audition, is it user friendly? because I know Cakewalk is not lol.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
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Apr 17, 2009 03:59 pm Have never used cakewalk, I think Audition is layed out very well and pretty intuitive. It does run around $350 I think though, kinda expensive although that does grant you 3 licenses for multi computer users.
Really though, it may just seem simple to me as I've used it for a couple years now. Any DAW application will take some "get to know you" time imo.
SirEnvyBEAST MODE [ON] OFFMember
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Apr 17, 2009 07:46 pm I will have to look into that. I am going back to school, and part of my schooling requires an editing software, so, I have to get a software that allows me to do so. I will defintally look into Audition, like I said I have FL, but thats more of adding a little "zing" into your recordings. I appreciate your help.
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
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Apr 18, 2009 09:37 am Hmm, I've always found Cakewalk to be very easy to use. when i was first looking , i tried cubase, PT, and a few others and I went with cakewalk. To earch there own. i've never used audition so i can't comment. PT's to me has to be one of the more PITA . Logic can be a little tricky too.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Apr 18, 2009 04:36 pm Um, ya. How did you come to find Cakewalk hard to use?
It is the most well laid out and intuitive program out there. And they have the best tutorial's built right into the program, so you could in theory never even open the manual if you have half a clue to start with.
SirEnvyBEAST MODE [ON] OFFMember
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Apr 19, 2009 09:33 am Any program will be easy once you figure it out...I can work FL backwards and make one killer track, with using VTI...but last time I used Cakewalk, was about 3-4 years ago, so maybe they have made it easier to use...but as the years have gone by, I have learned from other people, and what not. So maybe Cakewalk might be the right choice...I have looked into Audition, seems like a nice piece of software. I will look into Cakewalk since that seems to be what you guys are praising on.
SirEnvyBEAST MODE [ON] OFFMember
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Apr 19, 2009 06:38 pm Noize, I saw that you use Project 5....whats the big difference between that and Sonar, and which would you prefer?
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Apr 19, 2009 06:51 pm I use them both. I use P5 for quick more dance based stuff. Although it works just fine for any genre. It used to be that it was tooled more toward looping and synthes as it has very direct tools and access to all that. But now Sonar has all that and more pretty well accessible now so that isn't the main difference.
I use P5 now mainly for setting up DJ type runs and such. I do some work for laptop DJ's that use P5 live which is another thing it was built to do. But P5 is now more like a quick sketch pad app for me these days.
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Apr 19, 2009 09:02 pm ohh okay, that makes sense. Have you used Sonar Home Studio 7? You said you do use Sonar 8 Producer, but I feel that is more then I need, and am looking at using the home studio software.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Apr 19, 2009 09:20 pm HS 7 is great. It gives you a very good set of tools to start with and has no limits set on anything really. Its pretty wide open and again, can be set up to a work flow environment you can feel comfy in.
But ya, Sonar 8 PE is probably way more then most would ever use in a basic home studio.
But yes, HS 7 is a killer app that again carries all the Cakewalk tutorials and such needed to get yourself adjusted to using it. It comes with some content that work with the tutorials to get you familiar with the app.
Apr 19, 2009 09:41 pm If it's all audio, not midi, Kristal Audio Engine is pretty darn good too...
SirEnvyBEAST MODE [ON] OFFMember
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Apr 20, 2009 09:22 pm hey Noize, do I need an ASIO driver in order to use Cakewalk homestudio 7? I dont have the room on my PC for a new card, so I figured I could maybe use something like this www.guitarcenter.com/M-Au...776-i1154077.gc
J-botByte-MixerMember
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Apr 21, 2009 10:06 am A lot of us around here use the portable audio interfaces. I myself use the Echo Audiofire 4 which runs about $280 new. They have an audiofire 2 as well, which is about $100 cheaper. I can definitely recommend Echo and the Audiofire series. Good stuff, and very stable. Just make sure you've got a firewire port.
I haven't used them myself, but the Line6 interfaces have some good rep around here, the UX1, UX2, and KB37. I'm not sure the UX1 and 2 support midi though, and the KB37 (which definitely does) is close to $300 bucks, but it's also its own midi keyboard controller.
Some people here also use the M-Audio devices as well, but I don't have any experience with them.
Apr 21, 2009 10:09 am The Line 6 stuff, beyond being and audio interface, also has software effects, amp, speaker, microphone and preamp modeling, and MUCH more, and some very, very good ones.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
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Apr 21, 2009 10:55 am Also keep in mind that if you're using this for educational purposes, some manufacturers have student editions or academic editions of their software available for students at very deeply discounted prices. All you have to do is prove that you're a student and you should have access to academic versions.
This website (I"ve never used it myself) might be a good starting point:
www.gradware.com/category/view/282563
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Apr 21, 2009 06:29 pm SirEnvy, for performance reason's we all use ASIO if it is available. The next choice would be the WDM drivers which in some instances are called out as WDM KS or the like.
Yes, the M-Audio unit you linked to is good for sure. I've heard some folks have some issues with getting good latency performance at times in Vista but most times it is working good.
The Line 6 UX-2 would be a good alternative as well if you do any guitar or bass direct, and the microphone pre amp emulation's are killer in it.
www.zzounds.com.../item--LINTPUX2
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Apr 22, 2009 09:43 am Tadpui, thanks for that site for sure!
Noize that line6 is what I need for sure! its even good for a preamp with much much more!
and even the link db gave me, that line6 was sweet as well! thank you guys so much!
before I buy this thing, how would i be able to record drums? I have a electronic drum set, also I have a Pearl Drum set...
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
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Apr 22, 2009 11:55 am The digi drums would not be too hard using a UX2 but you would only be able to record a single stereo signal. If the levels are dialed correctly it should give a usable track with little effort.
The Pearl kit you could record using two condensor mics (matched pair if possible) in the recorderman setup.
Now... if you really want to close mic your drums with 4-8 mics then you may want to look a bit higher up. I personally use the Line6 UX8. It offers the same features as the UX2 on channels 1&2 (mics, line, or instruments) but also has 6 more mic pre's which I use for tracking drums.
Dual headphone outs for seperate monitor mixes and some pretty decent monitor control in the control panel. They run around $500.
SirEnvyBEAST MODE [ON] OFFMember
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Apr 22, 2009 02:07 pm yeah, so i could use the digi drums with the ux2, but if I want to be more serious, you would recommend using a UX8, but couldnt I get a mixer, then plug into the UX2?
Cheesh, so there is a monitor control for my monitors as well, for $500? (I have 2 M-Audio BX5a) in which Noize recommended, and I freakin love those monitors!
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
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Apr 22, 2009 05:21 pm By all means you can use a mixer and simply record a stereo signal, totally viable and can sound great. I was just saying if capturing each drum seperately appeals to you then you may want to step up to 8 channels.
On the UX8, I wouldn't not reccomend it but would personally buy Motu at the moment. There are quite a few good 8-10 channel interfaces of which some are pretty darn affordable. Many options going that route.
On your last line. There is no $500 monitor controller, the UX8 runs $500. I meant that with it's 4 stereo and dual headphone outs it has alot of routing control for your monitor signal. Be it your bx5a, headphones, a mixer, or whatever you need to do.
SirEnvyBEAST MODE [ON] OFFMember
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Apr 22, 2009 05:36 pm okay, yeah I checked out the UX8, which is much more then what I need for rightn ow....I think I will go for the UX2, and use on of the stereo inputs with a mixer, and record to the computer with the UX2 via USB...so if I wanted to go indepth later, I should purchase an 8 channel mixer, then plug it into the UX2, then record to the computer by using the UX2, and also record guitar/bass...this sounds what I am looking for...plus the UX2 has pod farm, and also Ableton Live Lite recording software....but I am still going to pick up Sonar Home Studio 7.....YEAH!
Tinstrydegiv me gearMember
Since: Jan 29, 2009
Apr 22, 2009 11:44 pm for editing i feel the best is sony sound forge used with a DAW.i use reaper as the DAW.u have tremendous control on ur signal in sound forge!
