Jan 27, 2009 08:51 pm Deleted By Deon
couple of non related questions
Posted on Jan 27, 2009 06:25 pm
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Jan 27, 2009 08:51 pm Deleted By Deon
Jan 27, 2009 08:52 pm 1. i see alot of people's monitor speakers on their sides with the tweeters on the inside.
why is that? is it a better way to hear everything at head height?
Jan 27, 2009 11:06 pm Freaky - I just posted this on another forum three minutes ago:
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(From the Mixing Engineer's Handbook) Occasionally, tweeters to the inside works, but this usually results in smearing of the stereo image.
I couldn't possibly disagree with that more. I don't think I've ever actually seen a recommendation to put tweeters to the outside before - ever. The sentence before it actually refers to widening the stereo field - Again, I'd rather have the stereo field be more accurate so I can actually hear what I'm doing.
This is what gets into that "more fun to listen to" vs. "more accurate" thing...
Tweeters out "looks pretty" and (as mentioned somewhere) exaggerates the stereo image. Tweeters inside gives more accurate imaging and less "blur" to the field. If they're *very* close together, then *maybe* to the outside. On top of the improved imaging inherently, it also keeps the tweeters farther from the walls.
I've seen diagrams ad-nauseum that explain this (but for some reason, I can't find any right now) that can explain it better than I ever could... Browse any audiophile forum I suppose...
But for a quick visualization - Pick any floorstander - The point is nearly always to keep the tweeters at ear level. So by default, the tweeters are always closest to the ear. Much, MUCH closer (not just those precious inches) in many cases.
Admittedly, I keep the tweeters in my "home theater" system to the outside -- It's not a big room and (believe it or not) I'm not looking for "accuracy" - Although I'm tossing around the idea to flip them back because the exaggeration, although small, drives me batty. Luckily for me, I'm not in there often.
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Jan 27, 2009 11:16 pm ok cool, will try em on their sides.
just got em upright, atm. but the tweeties are above my head f sure.
Jan 28, 2009 09:53 am Before you do it, check the MFG's specs - Especially if they're active -- in which case, you don't want them on their side unless the MFG's literature very specifically mentions that it's an option.
If they're passive, it won't *technically* be an issue, but depending on the design, it might be nasty.
Jan 28, 2009 09:58 am When I actually had a formal studio desk and room I always had my speakers upright, but those speakers (JBL 4206's last seen in Herb's studio) had the woofer angled slightly up rather than dead-ahead like the tweeters.
While I am pretty sure MM will have a reason that is the wrong thing to do, I was always very pleased with the sound and imaging.
Now that I have smaller nearfields in an office, I have them laying down, tweeters inside, and it sounds good. Not as good as the 4206's did, but they get the job done for my meager needs.
Jan 28, 2009 11:21 am The 4206s are still here and doing a great job, dB ;-)
If all the sound hits your ears at the same time, it's all good.
Jan 28, 2009 05:21 pm Quote:
While I am pretty sure MM will have a reason that is the wrong thing to do, I was always very pleased with the sound and imaging.
Nah - My speakers tilted farther back than spec too.
My big concern is with active monitors that overheat (and subsequently start blowing fuses or shorting out) because they're not designed to be on the side. Some of them have their heat sinks positioned/designed for almost anything. Others are reaaaallly picky...
Jan 28, 2009 06:35 pm when you say active you mean with their own drivers/power?
mine have that. but will check the specs.
like you've said to me before MM, the room im in needs work, which is near on impossible to do being its location, but its either my speakers or the most likley the room that's giving my sound a punchy bassy sound around 200>300hz. especialy noticable in the kicks.
i could swear it the speaker though, i move around the room and i can herar the changes if im not in front of em.
my speakers though are Krk V4's and they are small, chunky, but about 350mm in height and quite deep. i have them around head height with a little bass notch out at the bottom about 150mm wide.
Jan 28, 2009 09:58 pm Yes - Active as in "have their own power amps built-in" -- Heat is an issue - Heat was most definitely thought of during design and manufacturing.
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