Jun 25, 2007 12:24 pm are you playing it back through the PA?
help please, im at my wits end...
Posted on Jun 25, 2007 12:21 pm
andystobb33
Member Since: Jun 25, 2007
hi everyone, im andy, im new. hello.
right heres the dilema -
ive got this new shiny laptop, cool edit on it, and im looking to record some tunage. i have my behringher PA setup in the room, mic's into lines 1-8, cd player into 10, ipod into 11, speakon cables to the speakers, all hunky dory, no mad noises, all working fine. however, ive got stereo 1/4" cable going out of my left and right main sockets and into the inbuilt laptop sound card line in/ mic. again, no real problems there, but when i go to record i get the sound fine, when i play back i get a mad interference type sound, oh wise ukmusic forum, why is this, can it be that the soudcard's $$$$, the desk's buggered or something else more sinister alltogether
help, i beg of you, it's grinding my gears.
andy.
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Jun 25, 2007 12:24 pm are you playing it back through the PA?
Jun 25, 2007 12:26 pm You can't plug line level signal (coming out your pa board) into the mic input on your laptop.
I'm guessing you have two inputs, one says line in, and the other says mic. Don't use the mic, only use the line in.
Also, the line in may have 2 channels on it (left and right) so if you got an adapter, to go from the 2 plugs on your PA board, and converts down to a stereo 1/8" jack, then you can keep left side separate from the right side.
That's my guess so far, anyway =).
Welcome to the boards, too!
Jun 25, 2007 12:28 pm Too add, the soundcard will be a weak link in the chain. The converters will be low-quality, so stepping up to a recording type interface will make you sound better =).
There's some pretty decent firewire and USB offerings out there, that are two channel. There's also ones that are more channels, and on mixer boards too, so there's some options.
Jun 25, 2007 12:33 pm Maybe burn a CD of the wav file and see if the noise is on it or not (play it on your house stereo). This will help you determine whether it is recording the noise or not. If the noise is on the file then you know that it has something to do with the input. If not then it is just the way you are monitoring.
Jun 25, 2007 12:40 pm it seems to be a problem with my desk. any help will be most welcome.
Jun 25, 2007 12:45 pm maybe something to do with the impedace or something? how do i get it to work, this is killing me. its as if the bloody things laughing at me!!
Jun 25, 2007 12:52 pm yes im trying to play it back through the PA,, however its making the same noise through my built-in laptop speakers and through headphones.
Jun 25, 2007 01:08 pm ok and are you monitoring out of the PA when you record?
i'm gonna guess yes...you've got a feedback loop...what's happening is your sound is gooing out of the computer, into the mixer then out of the mixer back into the computer....
try disconnecting you're computer's "line out" that's gooin' to the mixer durring recording, i bet it stops.
Jun 25, 2007 01:16 pm yeah thats what i want to do, how can i resolve it mate?
without the monitoring of the playback the setup is-
mic to mixer mixer mon out into sound card. now i wat to o out of sound card into mixer, how do i stop this 'orrible sound?
Jun 25, 2007 01:18 pm the soud occurs anytime the mixer is plugged into the s/c headphone jack.
Jun 25, 2007 01:44 pm yeah...you want to be sure you hook up the computer's output into the mixer's "Tape In"...it'll be an RCA jack...this does not send audio back into the computer.
Jun 25, 2007 01:52 pm thank you my friend, pit has improved drastically, still a bit of a (hot) fuzz there, i'll report back if there are any changes!!!
you are a scholar and a gent.
Jun 25, 2007 01:56 pm argh, its still ******* there!!!!!
going to try a different mixer tomorrow if i can lay my hands on one.8
Jun 25, 2007 01:57 pm when anything other than the computer, ie. ipod or CD player are plugged into the tape in, it works fine.....
Jun 25, 2007 02:00 pm ok if you're running a headphone output into the tape in (line in) then that could possibly be contributing....try to keep the headphone volume at about 50-60% for the best signal to noize ratio....crankin' it up will cause distortion, and too low will make noize relatively louder.
Jun 25, 2007 02:01 pm also could be a grounding issue with your computer....i donno about that though.
Jun 25, 2007 02:04 pm cheers for your help mate. i'll work it out if it kills me!
Jun 25, 2007 02:06 pm you're welcome man...keep us posted (bad pun) if it keeps misbehavin'.
Jun 26, 2007 09:38 am its still not working properly, im going to get an offboard soundcard, is that a good idea?
Jun 26, 2007 09:49 am I am new to this issue/thread, but have you listened thru the laptop speakers and the PA and found bad sound in both? If so, I'd say your built in sound card just sucks, which is often the case with integrated sound devices. Integrated ones are usually designed for gaming and music/DVD playback, not recording. Getting a USB or firewire device would likely be just the ticket to help.
Jun 26, 2007 10:23 am hmm, sounds kinda like what I posted up there earlier in the thread . .
=)
Jun 26, 2007 10:24 am yeah, what he said before I said it.
Jun 26, 2007 10:48 am cheers fellas. any (cheap) reccommendations??
Jun 26, 2007 01:28 pm how much money are you willing to part with? do you have firewire or usb 1 or 2.0 ports avaliable?
Jun 27, 2007 09:56 am usb 1 i think, the laptops brand spanking though.
about 100 quid, as cheap as poss though to be honest.
Jun 27, 2007 12:10 pm The Line6 UX2 is getting fave reviews on here, though it's only 2 channel. If you can live with that, you'll get a bunch of modeling effects, etc.
100quid, let's see, that's either 1468.45 $ us, or 75 pesos, i can't remember which =).
I think the UX2 will come in under 100q,
Jun 30, 2007 04:46 pm pjk, it is $178.53 in US dollars, so yes he should be able to afford a UX-2 with 100 quid.
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