Linux
Home > Home Recording Forum > Computers & Software > Linux
Posted on May 15, 2007 10:25 am
Bleak
A small pie will soon be eaten
Member Since: Aug 26, 2004
Does anyone use a Linux OS at all?
I mean for non-server use.
I'm thinking of having a crack but the amount of distributions is pretty daunting.
[ Back to Top ]
May 15, 2007 10:28 am wait for zekthedeadcow...he does...
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
May 15, 2007 11:04 am I've been keeping partial tabs on the linux train. I've got a red hat 9 box at home for a web dev server, and use fedora core at work for a web server.
I haven't done a ton with desktop platforms, but if I had to choose, I'd probably go with ubuntu, or fedora.
I just read that using the fedora dist, you can get a package in their installer programs, that has most of the audio apps in it. But fedora is like 6 CDs, whereas ubuntu is 1, i think.
I think ubuntu is getting good press from audio people, though I'd have to research more before I actually jumped.
I did install 64studio on my studio box, though on a different HD. It was pretty smooth, but I don't know what I'm doing, so I was pretty lost. I don't have any time right now to swim through a new OS, specially Linux, so I'm staying with XP for now.
When XP wears out, or becomes too outdated, I'm pretty sure I'll be jumping to linux, and making it work. The audio platforms should be pretty stable and usable by then (a few years, I'm thinking).
Oh yeah, I just downloaded the Musix distro a week ago, but haven't even touched it yet. Might be worth a look as well.
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
May 15, 2007 06:39 pm I use linux for everything except some video stuff. The office applications are very well established... and I've have hardware that works better on Linux than on XP... like my video card and printer...
For production it's a little weird... some apps are so far above and beyond what you could possibly get commercially while others sit in beta with no momentum.
I think a lot of attention is going to Ubuntu and thats where I would suggest starting... or with fedora for easy use of CCRMA. currently I use Slackware but it can be quite a beast. I'll probably get a ubuntu partition goin in the next month or so once things slow down in landscaping.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 15, 2007 07:29 pm I am using Ubuntu. And I'm liking it. Once I got the hang of things it's pretty smooth.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 16, 2007 01:34 am However, I still have NO idea how to get sound running in this OS.
BleakA small pie will soon be eatenMember
Since: Aug 26, 2004
May 16, 2007 01:56 am Thanks guys.
I'm just getting sick of Microsoft.
I dont want to jump on the 'MS bash' bandwagon as they make some excellent products for sure.
To be honest there are some really great Features in both XP and Vista.
But i'd like to try a 'Lighter' OS and learn a bit more about Linux as whole.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 16, 2007 06:22 am Correction: I can get sound to work, just not xmms *grumbe grumble* I needs to be able to play mp3s...
Yeah I'd say start with ubuntu. It's pretty simple to get the hang of.
BleakA small pie will soon be eatenMember
Since: Aug 26, 2004
May 16, 2007 09:15 am Mate, You're a Champion!
That looks awsome!
BleakA small pie will soon be eatenMember
Since: Aug 26, 2004
May 16, 2007 09:25 am This looks interesting!
ardour.org/
I'll try and track something in the next week with it.
I'll do a review of the whole process when i'm done!
it'll be interesting to compare it to Cubase/Sonar.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
May 16, 2007 09:25 am sweet, i think i'm gonna give 'er a go as well.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 17, 2007 02:58 am grrr ok I got xmms working but now I can't hear audio from flash files or system beeps or anything.
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
May 17, 2007 08:46 am Are you using KDE or Gnome?
The sound server for KDE (arts) doesn't play nice with a lot of things. To get sound in firefox I have to start it with the alsa-oss wrapper which should be included.
aoss firefox
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 17, 2007 05:12 pm I'm using gnome. I just typed aoss firefox in the terminal and nothing noticible happened.
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
May 17, 2007 05:19 pm make sure firefox is completely closed before hand...
then the noticeable thing is that firefox should launch :)
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 17, 2007 05:24 pm well since my flash would load but not really play, I assumed I needed to reinstall it, so this is what I did:
sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
then i restarted firefox
then
sudo aptitude install alsa-oss
gksudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
and I changed FIREFOX_DSP="none"
to
FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
however still no working
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
May 17, 2007 07:22 pm HOnestly I'm not sure i would want to go through all that just to hear something.
But hey, to each his own.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 17, 2007 08:39 pm okey, downloading the .tar.gz for the latest flash player, and installing it into /usr/lib/mozillia-firefox and then restarting the computer seems to have fixed the problem. I can now watch the videos fine with audio, and xmms is still playing the mp3s... so we'll see how long it lasts ;)
Noize - eh, linux is like leggos, you can go out and buy a premade toy car that does everything as it should right out of the box, or you can buy the leggo set and build the toy car yourself. And when you get bored with the car you can take it apart and make something else.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
May 18, 2007 07:25 am and, it's free
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 18, 2007 10:32 pm yes. free is good.
BleakA small pie will soon be eatenMember
Since: Aug 26, 2004
May 20, 2007 12:16 am If anyone else wants to give this a crack then i recommend using a torrent to download!
I'm getting some smoking speeds!
Here are all the mirrors on the official sight.
ubuntustudio.org/downloads
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 23, 2007 06:29 pm well I downloaded and installed ardour last night, however i can't figure out how to get jack to connect to it, so...
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
May 23, 2007 09:28 pm I get lost in there myself, I find it easier to select inputs and outputs in Ardour instead of Jackconnect. Ardour usually has nothing routed so you have to point all the tracks to the master track, etc. It makes a bit more sense in the mixer-console view.
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 23, 2007 10:43 pm well when i try to run ardour it says:
Ardour cannont connect to jack etc
then it has an ok button that closes ardour when i hit it
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
May 23, 2007 10:56 pm you need to start jack :) It doesn't start automatically.
You might have a qjackctl app in a menu that will allow you to start jack (it has to be 'playing')
or in console
jackd -R -d alsa
(starts jack in realtime mode [may need root or other finagling] using the alsa soundcard driver)
LokiCone PokerMember
Since: Apr 07, 2002
May 24, 2007 04:10 am started jack, then sudo'd ardour, got this:
root@charlie-linux:/etc/ardour# sudo ardour
Ardour/GTK 0.99.3
(built using 1.4.1 with libardour 0.908.2 and GCC version 4.1.2 20061103 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-18ubuntu2))
Copyright (C) 1999-2006 Paul Davis
Some portions Copyright (C) Steve Harris, Ari Johnson, Brett Viren, Joel Baker
Ardour comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the source for copying conditions.
Loading UI configuration file /etc/ardour/ardour_ui.rc
jackstart: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are:
=ep cap_setpcap-ep
probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,
a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"
jackstart: md5 checksum for /usr/bin/jackd does not match
ardour: [ERROR]: Unable to connect to JACK server
ardour: [ERROR]: Could not connect to JACK server as "ardour"
ardour: [ERROR]: Could not connec
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
May 24, 2007 08:32 am maybe just try not sudoing ardour because I think super user is different from root and JACK wants things to be the same user...so JACK is running as root and ardour is trying to run as su...
Jul 31, 2007 01:25 am Just wanted to add to/resurrect this thread. I'm using Ubuntu Studio right now and loving it. Ardour2 is a huge improvement over previous versions (it's actually usable without having to worry about corrupted projects now). Loki, did you install the low latency kernel and make sure that JACK was actually started (not just running, but configured and started without any xruns)?
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Jul 31, 2007 03:16 am I switched to ubuntu studio as well... it rocks...just needed some additional photo software like Rawstudio and it handles my photography stuff very well.
Jul 31, 2007 06:24 am wow, that does look cool. It starting to sound like Linux is catching up these days, which is awesome.