Tune from one of the new guys........
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Posted on Jan 12, 2003 01:38 pm
guitar ed
Member Since: Nov 19, 2002
Hey guys. I've been hangin' around here for a little while. I have a song on Soundclick that I did totally in Sonar 2.0 XL. Check it out if'n ya wanna. I been at this music thing my whole life, so I can take any bombs you throw at me !!! Here's the link:
www.soundclick.com/bands/...atrickmusic.htm
C-ya
Ed
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DanMember
Since: Nov 21, 2002
Jan 12, 2003 02:16 pm thats great man. in my opinion The production is professional sounding, and the guitar work is great. Though i am not a fan of songs that are just songlenght guitar solos, its a good song, the guitar playing stays fresh the whole way through.
Great job
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 14, 2003 07:45 pm I loved it, and I do like instrumental music. The guitar never did get boring as they sometime's do in a guitar only tune. Did you record live drum's or are they programed? It sound's like you have good sound coming from your POD. I swear by my POD, and have not had a live guitar rig in my studio in over a year. What guitar are you playing the track's with? Again, I thought it was an excelant mix, and a well writen tune. That could easily get played on a progresive radio station. Let us know when you have more.
Peace,
Noize 2 U
Jan 15, 2003 10:14 pm thanks, fellas ! I actually wrote that thing almost 10 years ago. I programmed the drums in Sonar, and used the DR-008 for sampling. It's my very first finished product on the PC. Noize, I don't know how I ever got by without a POD !! I use the thing live, too, and it's by far the best investment I ever made. I play an Ibanez RG-750. I have a few more tunes in the works, but I'm slower than Boston when it comes to gettin them done !! I'll put another one on in a month or so ! Thanks for the kind words. Aerosmith is on 'Behind the Music', so I gotta run. C-ya!
Ed
Jan 16, 2003 05:22 am Oh, PODS rocks! last night Noize and I recorded some bass guitar through it as well. Noize turned me on to the POD a few years ago, too.
I'll try to listen to your tune in the next couple days...Noize told me it rocked so Ihave to listen.
tonyd1970The fat one always watches us.Member
Since: Nov 08, 2002
Jan 19, 2003 03:56 pm Hey the link is brokey brokey!
Jan 19, 2003 04:57 pm I can't get there, either. They must be having some issues. It's a shame, too, cuz this song is gonna be a big, big hit!!! Oh, well, I'll keep checkin and let you know when they get things going again.
Ed
Jan 19, 2003 05:48 pm Noize and I had some trouble last night with that link as well...
Jan 19, 2003 11:43 pm it's 12:45 am here in Ohio, and the link is working now. Give it a shot when you get a minute.
Ed
tonyd1970The fat one always watches us.Member
Since: Nov 08, 2002
Jan 20, 2003 07:31 am 0830 on the 20th and still brokey brokey
Jan 20, 2003 07:40 am Well, now that was one of the ^%&@%#%@!# best instrumentals I have heard in ages.
Here is what you are gonna do, ed, you are gonna sit down and write a tutorial about how the hell you got that crisp and clean bass sound. There is now way that is a sequenced bass, and it frickin rocks. The guitar was razor sharp.
Then, when you are done with that tutorial you are gonna upload a few more tunes so I can listen to some more.
Excellent! Now get to work. ;-)
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 20, 2003 09:16 pm Yep, if I still played live I would probably have a POD Pro in my rack. If you haven't loaded the Sound Diver app for it yet you should. And hook it up to midi and dig in and let it rip. Although you do have Sonar, so you could use the control panel app that was written for the POD in Sonar and it will let you get in and contro all the stuff Sound Diver does. YOu can get at some extra amp model's and speaker model's and really tweak the daylight's out of it.
PS, I told ya it rocked dB... :-)
Jan 20, 2003 10:05 pm Well, I'm glad someone got the link to work !!! Thanks for the kind words, and also for the fake cuss words! That absolutely IS a sequenced bass track. I did it all in Sonar, and I don't know off the top of my head what the bass sound font is that I used. I think it gets kinda thin during the double lead, personally. I sequenced all the drums, then loaded up the DR-008 with my favorite (at the time!) samples, and let it rip. I'll have to load up that tune again a let you know where I set my FX and such. After I get them done I burn them to CD and get 'em off my hard drive.
Noize, I've been using Sound Diver for a couple years now. I love the way I can configure different banks, and I visit Line6's Tone Transfer Library fairly regularly. Of course, that's just for the sound end of it. I've yet to figure out how to use the studio ware panel in Sonar. I can get it up, but I can't make it respond. Believe me, I've tried dozens of times! I just wanna figure it out cuz it looks so cool! Naturally, the manual isn't real helpful in this area. If you can help me get it going, I'd be greatful.
Anyhoo, thanks again for the compliments, and I'll let ya know when I get something else done. I really do take longer than Boston to get something done! C-ya
Ed
Jan 21, 2003 05:50 am Sequenced? WOW, that is the grooviest bass sequence I have ever heardm the higher notes have a little sharpness about them that the lower ones don't...wow...I'm, I'm, I'm...stunned...
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Jan 21, 2003 05:37 pm with that sort of response (especially from db..never seen him so excited!) id beter have a listen!
tonyd1970The fat one always watches us.Member
Since: Nov 08, 2002
Jan 22, 2003 07:02 am Move out Satriani (sp again). db is right, thats an amazing bass, and the guitar wasnt too bad either. its really good guitar work if you cant make the noises with youre mouth!
ill give that song......an A+. id go higher but theres no more letters.
now if you could get the song up at a place that works all the time!
great job
glynbMember
Since: Dec 16, 2002
Jan 22, 2003 07:38 am I'd agree with everything said here the sound you've achieved is excellent and you could have told me you used a top live band and I'd have beleived you. Home recording quality can't get much better.
However, just to put a small fly in the ointment, the 'song' isn't really a song, no words, no melody or chorus, no hook. It is a great instrumental 'track' asnd a great showcase for your undoubted musicianship.
Personaly I like 'songs' and they are quite difficult to come up with (good ones that is).
How about teaming up your talent with some guy who can sing and write lyrics to get things even better!
Please don't take offence, just offering another perspective on what you've done.
Jan 22, 2003 08:28 am So it's not a song if it doesn't have words and basic pop-music structure?
I dare you to tell that to Trevor Rabin or John Paul Jones :-)
My personal style is rapidly evolving into instrumental music as well and I beg to differ that lyrics make it any more of a song other than the fact it makes it more commercially marketable. I also feel that marketability is no way for a musician to judge music, leave that to the teenage record-buying public.
I am not taking offense, nor intend on starting an argument, just presenting a apparant flaw (in my opinion) in your thought process.
glynbMember
Since: Dec 16, 2002
Jan 22, 2003 11:26 am Definition of a 'song' from the internet...
"A brief composition written or adapted for singing.
The act or art of singing: broke into song.
A distinctive or characteristic sound made by an animal, such as a bird or an insect.
Poetry; verse.
A lyric poem or ballad."
I'm not going to get into a silly argument. The guy's track is an excellent piece of music/musicianship (like I said). But it's not a 'song', in my opinion.
Let's agree to differ.
Jan 22, 2003 11:33 am that's fair, a noise made by an animal is a song but a piece of music without lyrics isn't...hmmmm, curious...
however, yes, silly argument...
Jan 22, 2003 07:34 pm Actually, if you listen to Joe Satriani, you really can hear verses, chorus, bridge, and solos. I think his guitar emulates vocals. I always have thought that. Not that all guitar instrumentals are like that, but his certainly are. I love instrumental guitar songs, and I enjoy playing them. I don't think I'd ever do an entire album of them, but it would be fun. Oh yeah, it's a great way to show off, too !!!
Ed
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 22, 2003 09:23 pm Ya know dB. Ya never got that excited over any of my sequanced bass track's.
glynbMember
Since: Dec 16, 2002
Jan 23, 2003 04:35 am Sorry guys, I suppose I must have been in 'pedantic' mode at the time I kicked off this thing about the meaning of the word 'song'.
I suppose the 'bird song' definition undermines my argument!
(Still prefer the term 'instrumental' in this case though !!)
flame...bringing sexy backMember
Since: Jul 01, 2002
Jan 23, 2003 05:29 am im confuddled...
Jan 23, 2003 04:51 pm me too.
RaphMember
Since: Aug 22, 2002
Jan 23, 2003 05:51 pm nice groove :D
Jan 23, 2003 06:34 pm Please, ed and flame, don't mind glynb and I, we were just debating what a "song" actually is or isn't...got a little off course, not trying confuddle anyone :-)
Jan 23, 2003 07:41 pm Some of the world's greatest discoveries were the result of a mission gone off course. Having said that, it occurs to me that I have nothing to back the statement up with, making it useless boonedoggle. But anyway, db, no problem here as far as the is it or isn't it thingy. I did notice that when you found yourself on the verge of an argument, you slipped in here disguised as Sponge Bob !! Nice try !!!!
Ed
Jan 23, 2003 08:05 pm LOL :-D
Sponge Bob rocks! For me and my 4 1/2 year old daughter, well, it's our guilty pleasure when mom is out shopping :-)
Jan 23, 2003 08:24 pm Me & my kids do it right in front of her !!!! We dig SB !!!
Ed
Jan 23, 2003 08:32 pm Ya my wife doesn't really dig Sponge Bob too much...kinda Ren and Stimpy-ish, more for adults than kids I think :-)
::sigh::
Jan 23, 2003 09:20 pm I never got those guys..........but think of all the recording time you get when those Ren and Stimpy marathons are on !!!!
BTW, the bass soundfont I used in my song......er, instrumental, (hahaha) was a sonic implants font that came with Sonar. It's in the rock bass bank, and it's called 'Bigger Sub'.
Ed
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 23, 2003 09:30 pm Sponge Bob rock's, and he does it right on my little mixer. Got his as a christmass present from a pizza girl last year. Now he just sit's and watches me work, or not. And my kid's even got me a giant sponge bob balloon delivered to work on monday, that was a riot. Oh well, back at it.
