Mar 06, 2007 10:02 pm "cheap" and "good quality", ummmm, come on now, seriously?
I NEEEED MICROPHONES
Posted on Mar 06, 2007 10:01 pm
Bmonkey
Member Since: Feb 27, 2007
i need to buy a LOT of recordin mics [condensor] ... where can i get CHEAP [good quality] mics???
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Mar 06, 2007 10:02 pm "cheap" and "good quality", ummmm, come on now, seriously?
Mar 06, 2007 10:06 pm cmon. i used the mxl 990/991 and they are cheap and good quality! i just need more and in bulk! what others?? lol
Mar 06, 2007 10:31 pm Quote:
i used the mxl 990/991 and they are cheap and good quality
I think you answered your own question.
Mar 07, 2007 06:56 pm A lot? What's a lot? Why? In bulk?
What are you recording? I'd be interested to know where you're putting these things.
For instance, a D112 in a kick can give you a killer kick sound, a Shure SM81 in the same place might not.
One nice Royer or Neumann through a nice pre will give you to-die-for sound. Fifty four MXL990's might not get you there...
Or are you thinking of selling these things?
Is it an orchestra? A choir? Correctly placing two or three nice mics out front might get you exactly where you want to be. Sticking an MXL991 down every f-hole will not.
I'm just not following you here. What's the outcome you're looking for?
I'd suggest just going for the basics, and getting the quality there.
Mar 08, 2007 09:15 am hahaha.. yeah im not gonna go on mic over load but i need to mic a drum set good [and leave it there], plus a mic for each of my guitar amps and one bass amp. and a couple for vocals. plus just extras to get flexibility in sound and to have extras. so like 10+- mics?!?! i just dont want to move my mics around. i want to keep them on my instruments!
Mar 08, 2007 11:26 am guitar amps will do well with a 57 out front,
Plus, I wouldn't go at a bunch of the same mic. I'd rather spice it up, have a larger arsenal of options in the future.
Also, I doubt you'd want to leave mics set up. Moving around, dust, un-caring people, etc., can take a toll on open, unprotected mics. Them mic stands can tip over pretty easily.
Just my .02$us. =)
Mar 08, 2007 12:54 pm Guitar Amps
Either some 57's or EV CO4's
Drums...
I'd buy one of the 300-400 drum mic kits and then replace the kick mic with a beta52, d6 or something similar.
Bass...
Use a Tom mic, I got great bass tone using my cheapo audix floor tom mic(F12).
Vocals...
Plenty of cheap options for nice condensors. Studio projects mics seem semi-popular and Ebay has some great deals on Rode mics.
Mar 08, 2007 05:50 pm I'm curious to know why so many people make the assumption that "condenser" and "quality" equal the same thing?? The condensers I have are pretty much useless in a non-isolated, live recording. (although they have their uses otherwise....)
I mean, the 99 dollar, Shure 57 dynamic is probably, hands down, the most popular mic in the world, yet so many people seem to assume that condenser is automatically better?
I don't get it.
Or maybe I'm being anal. :)
Mar 08, 2007 07:04 pm I don't think anyone made the assumption that condensor = quality?
He said he wanted cheap (yet quality) mics.
The only time I mentioned LDC is for vocals and I stand by that. For a studio I would not want to record vocals with a 57 or 58 unless doing so "live" as you stated. I think most people track everything out seperately, in that case LDC is fantastic for vocals.
Mar 08, 2007 07:40 pm I never understood the mass-hype 'bout the sm57 . I use it on guitar cabs and snares, and that is about it... can't be beat for those purposes (out'a my 'lil arsenal), but I wouldn't reach for it for a vocal track, unless the vocalist was a sca-reamin' maniac, and even then I'd probably be more apt to use a dynamic with a neodynium magnet in it . Maybe it's all in my setup, but it just seems the 57 needs way more juice to make it work, than any other mic I use, so it gets reserved for the only loudest of signals... which in my case isn't that often .
I'll second pjk about having a variety of mics to use on different applications... although, I do tend to leave mics in stands, or in the clip in the vocal booth . I cover 'em silk cloth when not in use... a product of lazyness more than anything, yet sometimes I'll leave the silk on for effect, or as a type of pop filter dependiing on the mic and application... that stuff also works pretty good to place right on a snare-head for quieting down it's over-ring .
Another .02 worth for the pile .
Mar 08, 2007 08:09 pm Quote:
but it just seems the 57 needs way more juice to make it work
Thats the beauty of it...it a mic that CAN take that kind of SPL and work...well...
Mar 08, 2007 09:23 pm Aye, I have one 57, and it's a champ for recording a cranked tube amp!
Mar 08, 2007 10:32 pm Oh, I wasn't directing my rant about condensers at him, exclusively. (I wasn't trying to slam condensers, either, I'm still itching to get my NT-5's) But his first post stated that he needed like 10+ mics (cheap condensers but quality) and later stated he needed them for drums/guitar/and bass. All three of those generally carry high SPL's, another reason to lean towards dynamics. (if you're looking at a limited mic arsenal) Cheap and quality together also generally lead towards dynamics. (although not always, especially when it comes to Rode's, right?)
:)
There's ANOTHER two cents for the pile.
And yeah, Hue, the 57 does need a heaping of clean gain to get "that sound", doesn't it? The crappy pre's on my recorder doesnt do it much justice, but a million studios around the world can't be wrong. :)
By the way, how'd that new computer work out for you?
Mar 08, 2007 10:36 pm And by the way, Captain, my previous post wasn't directed towards you, either. From reading the post, your advice was pretty sound.
Mar 09, 2007 12:50 pm Roger that man, sorry if I came off offended sounding, I wasn't. I did indeed notice later that he had said (condensor) in the first post, but I had already skipped down to his third post where he was stating what he wanted to record.
It's cyberhug time buddy... don't be shy... I'm down with Omalycat.
Mar 09, 2007 05:07 pm JFO: Everything WAS running smoothly, but in the process of running the system through the paces, I found that the RAM was 'unstable'... odd for a Corsair product . I am patiently waiting at my desk for the new RAM to arrive... any minute now... any minute...
Here it is now... we shall see...
EDIT : Voltage issues . The MB will only allow up to 1.9v, and the RAM needs 2.2 . Hmmmm...
Mar 09, 2007 06:11 pm ARRRGGG!!!
That is odd for corsair ram indeed. I love the stuff, when I can afford it :(
Mar 09, 2007 07:07 pm I ended up going with this stuff...
www.zakpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=4865
It seems that the 2.2v rating is only if you want to push it... defaults to 1.9v otherwise .
... running RAM tests now... fingers crossed .
8 )
Mar 10, 2007 12:21 pm why would you mic the guitar amps, why not just plug the pedals into the mixer? that gives it a more clear sound...
Mar 10, 2007 12:22 pm yuck, plugging pedals direct generally gives a very thin, crappy sound.
Mar 10, 2007 02:56 pm The only time I run direct on guitar is if I'm using a line 6 product. Mic'ing a cab is industry standard for a reason.
Mar 10, 2007 03:48 pm Cyber-hugs are great, man. Lot's better than the two and a half hour drive I had to endure with my drunken buddy who went off into the whole"I love you, man..." shmeel, last night.
Sheesh.
Hope that RAM works out for ya, Hue.
Mar 12, 2007 09:53 pm 'drunken-buddy-love' heh heh
The Ballistick stick was a good 'un . I spent the entire weekend 'testing' it with video games... left it on for a while, checked the temperature, etc... I still have to wipe everything and start over on the software side, but I think it's now safe to say it's a solid build . I probably wont get to put it through it's DAW paces for a coupl'a weeks .
Thanks for inquiring, JF... and er, sorry 'bout the sidetrack there, Bmonkey .
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