New Amp For Coco !!!
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Posted on Jan 13, 2007 05:59 pm
cocofromscotland
Hello!
Member Since: Jan 12, 2004
Hey Guys
Im "THINKING" about getting a new amp ;-O !
Shock - horror!
I own a vintage Marshall Valvestate 2, built in 93 and used by many includin the likes of Nirvana etc...
HOWEVER, Im drawn towads the Line 6 amps for the pure versatility (and the fact my sound is more like the indie bands of today than GNR/Aerosmith I used to go for)...
Anyone had exeperience of the;
Line 6 Spider 3 OR
Line 6 Flextone ??
I am looking at either the Line6 Spider 3 150
www.soundcontrol.co.uk/mo....3.1.1-14-16270
OR the Flextone (this one below)
www.soundcontrol.co.uk/mo...3.1.1-14-58-111
INputs and experiences with either/or would be valued !!
Cheers
Coco
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Jan 13, 2007 06:20 pm well im no expert, but i dont know y ur goin away from a marshal, i love mine, aslong as ur not selling it im fine with that ;). the line 6 models normally steer towards a more metal or hardcore sound while the marshal is for cleaner sound so i guesss having both would be very useful.
around which one to get, basically the flextone is more like your marshal and has some nice quality with some great distortion and effects and in this case is the middle sort of model of the 3, then the spider is jam packed with lots of effects and crazy ****,
so if i were to recomend one i would say keep the marshal and get the spider, but if your getting rid of the marshal, get the flextone
thats my advise ;)
Jan 13, 2007 06:47 pm Could NEVER get rid of the Marshall my friend...
Just looking for something easier/quicker to use for gigs....
Cheers
Coco
Jan 13, 2007 06:50 pm lol i know what u mean about getting to gigs. o man
i have so many stories and scars from those experiaces
but trust me, ulol never ever get to a gig with ease until you have a roady to carry your stuff for ya, lol
but ya i would still say get the spider for studio stuff to, im actually thinking of getting a new base amp, like 15w just to plug direct cause my traynor is old used busted and sounds really dirty when i turn it up past 3, lol
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 13, 2007 10:07 pm coco, if you can get your hands on the Line 6 Flextone III or even a II I highly recomend it. I just finished setting a buddy of mine up with the III and he and I both love the thing. You can hook it up to the PC and tweak till your head comes off and then just set your patches up for the set list and run with it. If I used a live amp that is the unit I would be grabbing. Everything from the ultra clean tones to the way out crunch and beyound. And it will do your Marshall as well. That thing is incredible if ya ask me. Money that would be damn well spent.
Stay away from the Spider though as it is not nearly the amp that the Flextones are.
Jan 13, 2007 11:51 pm actually i agree with noize
i read into it a bit more, it actually sounds quite kick *** ;) lol
Jan 14, 2007 06:47 am Guitar to an Avalon 737 to input 1 of a fender Deville 2x12. Preamp out to a D.I. box going nowhere. Power amp In to a Carvin 100W tube power amp running a Carvin Legacy 4x10 cab.
Phenomenal :-). Blues and rock to the core. And the crunch! oooh the crunch.... oooooh the crunch..... oooooooooh the cruuuuunch.... OMG the crunch..... Oh my god oh my god the crunch. Used it for a tool-like band as well.
BUT, maybe something more practical. You still liking your V-amp? You could run that with a tube power amp and a cab?
Jan 14, 2007 07:18 am Cheers guys ....
Aye Noize, the midi-ability of the Flextone has sold me on that one...Im gonna head out and try it tomorrow ... maybes pick one up too ;-) !! YAHHH...in nice time for our next gig in 3 weeks!
Some of the (thousands of) patches on the Line 6 site look sweet as a nut so aye, Im looking seriously at that. THe spider comes with 400 presets but after reading reviews, and your input, the Flextone looks a shedload better.
Also has some shethot stuff at the back to link straight into DI for venues with trim control as well as for recording - effectively giving me a pod AND an amp ;-D
CS - how ya doing man! Aye, originally thought about getting a powerblock and a cab and using my Korg AX10G for sounds BUT, this is hassle I dont need when playing smaller venues...with the Flextone, I just arrange patches, turn up and viola!! (and its a nice amp to boot).
Aye, I do still use the VAMP eveyr now and then tho the Korg I use now, in its place as its got some cool sounds...
Cheers guys - appreciate yer input.
To Sound COntrol I go tomorrow ;-)
Coco.
Jan 14, 2007 08:43 am Coco,
Let us know what you find out about the flextone! I'm in the same situation as you...I'm trying to find an amp with a variety of sounds for gigs, and it sounds like the Flextone has what I'm looking for. Also, am I reading right...is there a direct out to go right into the board? No miking of the amp necessary? That would be even easier!
DMR continues to rock my iPOd!!
Jim
Jan 14, 2007 08:52 am Hey Jim
Good to hear from ya man!!
Aye, that is correct. It has XLR out's (both mono AND stereo) with the added advantage of some "air" system that Line6 has which emulates the MIC'd up effect of a 57 or whatever ... so aye, you can run it RIGHT into a PA (even with trim control so you can choose how much you put into the desk which has no effect on your stage volume from the amps speaker ;-) !! And also, ideal for recording ... essentially a super cool POD with a big bloody loudspeaker ;-) !!
Yah man...tuner, top class amps (I checked out hte models and they're most cool...sound good too!)
So aye, seems to be JUST the ticket for me...Im gonna try to check it oot tomorrow so I'll let ya know my man.
Awra best
Coco.
Jan 14, 2007 10:31 am ya the flex tone really is so much better when u read into it, lol, im bad for that kinda thing ;), i just read like the first 3-4 sentences of the description before, then i was gonna comment again but noize beat me to hit ;)
that amp shure does seem P.I.M.P 'ed
Jan 14, 2007 11:03 am Hey Coco,
Just givin you a "what's up!" and seconding Noize's opinion about the Spider...they are crap. Never used a Flextone yet.
Best of luck on your decision...
Jan 14, 2007 01:11 pm Hey Mike
Good to hear from you too my man!! Been a while buddy!
Aye, I am now hearing a few folks say the Spider aint too hot ... or at least, in comparison to the Flextone.
Apparently the models in the Flextone come from the Vetta (which looks like the mutts nutts!!) ... indeed, the pricetag and spec list suggests is VERY cool (the Vetta) alas tho, I dont have the £1200 (or $2000) to buy one but the amps in the Flextone are FROM the Vetta so, all good!!!
Gonna check it tomorrow as I say so, I'll let ye all know!! Should be cool tho.
Cheers again buddy
Coco.
Jan 14, 2007 01:27 pm Here be a link to Line6's Offical page for the details, sound samples etc on the Flextone:
line6.com/flextoneiii/
I am hoping to nab the 2x12 150W version if they have it and assuming they can cut a deal for cold hard currency ;-)!!
Anyways, check em out.
Whilst there, check out this new Vetta 2 thing..its MEGA cool for sure!
Coco.
GeoffSM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic'sContributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002
Jan 14, 2007 02:53 pm hay coco the Flextones are nice my old guitar player has one and it worked much better than the spiders. I'm not going to knock the spider because it does a lot for the $$. I'd also suggest you check out the Vox Valvtronx line , i have one and i would say it's a hard choice between the two. best of luck .
Jan 14, 2007 03:08 pm Guitar sounds? whats it all about? When you're happy with the sound on stage and people(+guitarists)say 'I like the sound of your guitar' it must be ok.I tried a 15 watt Laney and was convinced it would be good to gig with but although everyone said it sounds great through the pa, on stage it lacked body. If I'm stressing over the sound it causes me to play crap too.I'm working my notice with a very loud (on stage/out front band)and when I'm playing with other line ups people are saying'your guitar sounds more Fendery now! Marshall JTM 45 (reissue) 2x12 or 4x12 + Strat/Tele.A mate of mine tried his Les Paul through it and went total bucky boots over it and he has spent thousands £ on gear lately on top of the range amp heads/cabs.The best test for all amps is on a gig. Studio? well thats a whole new ball game that many on here are very good at.
Jan 15, 2007 07:39 pm OK guys - so I tried the Flextone III .. 75W version. Gotta say, it didn't blow me away!!
For the bucks, I think Im gonna go old style and get me a new Marshall. Yep, some good tones in there for folks but for me, it didnt grab me the way I thought it would.
Granted, I used a poor guitar in the store to try it but , alas, I reckon Im too old in the tooth to NOT have a Marshallllll....
So, its back to the old faithful for me. Looking at now either the AVT275 or the DSL401 (the Valve based puppy) ;-) !
Yah, tis not a bad amp guys...dont let ole Coco put ye off..just not for me.
Coco.
cruxTypo SzarMember
Since: Jul 04, 2002
Jan 15, 2007 09:24 pm I vote Flextone hands down, those spiders feel like toys to me.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Jan 15, 2007 10:50 pm Make them hook ya up with a Les Paul for petes sake.
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Jan 16, 2007 03:13 pm Why not try the Epiphone tube amps? They really do sound very cool. Cheap too.
I bought the Valve Jr. ($99), and it sounds amazing. Its big brothers are very cool sounding too. No simulations/effects, just pure tube tone.
just 2 cents worth.
Jan 19, 2007 12:17 pm Weeeeeeeeheyyyyyyyyy!
OK guys ... so I Checked out LOTS of amps and tried the Flextone again, this time with a LP. Still, didnt quite float my boat for £500...
So, for another £150 (£650) total I could get THIS puppy :
www.marshallamps.com/prod...geType=OVERVIEW
So I did !!!!!! WOOT WOOT WOOT! One Marshall TSL601 JCM 2000 combo comin at me!
All valve...all 6 of em...sounds sweet as a nut with the Gibson I tested it with (though the butlicking the salesman done was sickening :-) !
Anyways, it's delivered to me tomorrow!! Whilst at it, I nabbed a Boss DD3 Digital Delay!! Schaaaweett!
So, loving the tube powered Marshall I am. If I am honest, much as I like and use and WONT hear them dismissed as crap, I couldnt use a modeller live .... great for DI Recording and possibly for other things but for the sound I personally need, I use Marshall...gotta say, this one is a sweet un!
Rock on tomorrow!
Coco.
Jan 19, 2007 04:43 pm Congrats, man! I love new gear.
Gotta post some sounds, dude.
CptTrippsCzar of Turd PolishMember
Since: Jun 20, 2006
Jan 19, 2007 04:54 pm For live I use my ampeg, love the tube. I have used the 6'er live though. Using cab/mic modeling with the direct outs provides a pretty good tone, the cleans are fantastic.
But if shopping for a mainly live amp, I'd got tuberiffic also.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Jan 19, 2007 04:59 pm There's just no imitating a cooking power tube.
I have seen the top of the mountain, and I'll never go back.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 19, 2007 09:43 pm I gotta admit I love the sound of a tube amp. And honestly the only thing I miss about them is the breaking point of the power tube is more under my control. But..... that said I have to say that if you had spent as much time programing and tweaking the Line 6 stuff as I have you would not be nearly as quick to jump to an amp. Granted, live I'm not sure either how I would like one. But after tweaking out a few patches for a buddy on his Flextone III I'm not sure it wouldn't work live for me. But as coco stated, he uses that particular sound and why not have the amp that does it, so for him it is a good thing.
Congrats coco.
And I'm as well shocked by the price they are charging over there. I can but the 2 x 12 for a little over half of what you would have paid for it there. Not very nice of them to charge that much.
Jan 22, 2007 05:30 pm WEHEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!
Thanks to the shop screwing up my order, NOT delivering my amp (on time twice) and not having it, I done some serious haggling, went nuts and got myself one of these puppies:
www.marshallamps.com/prod...ductCode=TSL122
..a top of the line TSL122 (far better than the TSL601) for just another £25 !!! Thats £175 off the price it SHOULD be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Howzat for negotiation skills!! Its sweet has a NUT!! Has far more options and features than the original amp and all because they pissed me off, tried to screw me and ended up getting a GREAT DEAL!! 3 channels, fully switchable, proper DI outs with speaker emulation, 2 x speakers and 100w of PURE valve power!
Folks, I am in guitar heaven... ;-D !!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
Coco.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Jan 22, 2007 05:53 pm 100 watts? damn, better start looking into power soaks. You'll never be able to crank that thing enough to get good power tube saturation without making your ears bleed!
When I first got my 80-watter, I was very disappointed because I was playing it at bedroom levels. I knew that you had to push tube amps to get good tone. So I turned it up to 4 or 5, and it was so blasted loud that I couldn't be in the same room with it. And with the master at 4 or 5, I wasn't even digging in to the "good tone".
It wasn't until I cranked it up to 6, 7, or 8 with the channel volume maxed and the preamp gain at around 3 or 4 that I truly heard the heavenly tone that a tube amp can deliver. But it was godawful loud, I mean like call the cops, dishes inthe kitchen rattling, nobody in the house can carry on a conversation kinds of loud. Really freaking loud.
I bought a THD Hotplate and now I can keep the amp cranked to really cook the power section without going deaf. Its still pretty loud, but with about a 8 or 12 db attenuation, its tolerable. Any more attenuation than that and it sounds more or less just as bad as it does with the master volume turned down.
After owning a high-wattage tube combo, I'm fully convinced that my next amp will be a little 5, 10, or 15 watter. They provide plenty of power, and if I ever need it on stage I can mic it.
You'll really be amazed at how much volume a 100 watt tube power section can put out, especially when paired with efficient speakers. Its frightening! Its a whole different league than the solid-state power section of the Marshall you used to have.
Of course the original that you'd ordered was 60W, and there will barely be a difference in the percieved volume of the two amps. Its mainly a difference in headroom.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jan 22, 2007 11:15 pm awwwesommme!
I've been on the tube bandwagon for awhile, and still love the sweet full sound of the tubes. Granted, I don't play the high volumes I could, but it's still nice.
I played a friends DSL50 head through a 2x12 some years ago. I was very impressed. The mid button and the tone shift were very cool, and a blast to play with. And this was at house volumes (very low, even for a 50w head).
Very tasty indeed. Congrats, man, and yes, get some earplugs!
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You'll really be amazed at how much volume a 100 watt tube power section can put out, especially when paired with efficient speakers. Its frightening! Its a whole different league than the solid-state power section of the Marshall you used to have.
Hee-yaa, that's the truth, my 40 watt super reverb is smashing loud, probably comparible to 100w solid state combos. That 100w is going to crush.
eesh, imagine getting one of those mode 4 amps, sheesh!
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Jan 23, 2007 10:26 am Yeah or even one of the new Peavey Windsor tube amps that are 120 watts. Holy Cow!
But you gig a lot Coco so the amp is a better fit for you than a guy like me, who only plays at home. But even controlling stage volume with a 100 watt tube amp can be difficult.
Another story:
I was in a band where the other guitarist played a 100 watt Marshall head into a 4x12 cab. At first I thought "awesome, a Marshall! I want to hear what all the fuss is about". Then when I actually heard the amp I was sorely disappointed. I never liked his tone and I got to wondering why Marshalls were so popular.
Well it was because with that 100W head, he couldn't turn the master up above 2 or 3 without drowning out the rest of the band. So I never got to hear the thing wide open. Even on stage at shows, he couldn't turn it up past 4 or so without taking off the audience's heads.
So that's why my first reaction was "start looking for a power soak"!
Jan 23, 2007 12:34 pm Hear ye guys...hear ye!
Good points. The GREAT thing aboot this amp is, it comes with a VPR switch which is mega cool. Leaves the tubes running at FULL BLAST for full saturated tube sound BUT, reduces the volume allowing you to run it fully cranked but at about 25% volume!!! BRILLIANT....
Also has a top DI which emulates speaker MIC'ing and ideal for gigging.
The MAIN problem nae the only problem with this big amp is its BIGGG!! It weights in at 35KG ! People that is 4 stone 7lbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's sooooo heavy I cant even get it up the studio! However, the DI out will be used (which also features silent recording - this thing has so many cool wee features like that) so that amp is fully cranked into my sound card BUT, nothing out the speakers!!! Ideal for my needs in every way guys....lovin it.
Just wait til I get an outdoor gig and the ability to REALLLLLY kick *** volume wise! WOOOOT WOOOT
Cheers for all yer inputs here guys...appreciate yer chippin in
Coco.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jan 23, 2007 01:06 pm sweet, that's the best of all worlds, except the chiropractic one =).
Good on ya, enjoy.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Jan 23, 2007 01:14 pm Nice, thats awesome that it has a built-in attenuator. I think that when THD did that with their Univalve and Bivalve amps, lots of people in the industry listened.
That feature will save your ears from lots of hardship for sure.
Jan 23, 2007 06:16 pm Hey PJK - tell me about man!! It's the heaviest darn amp I ever did lift ..... or not, as the case may be ;-) !!
I need, a roadie ;-D !! haha.
Tad - aye, its most cool for sure. Will defo save me getting a serious bout of tennitis which, is most undesirable !!
I'm gonna try and suss out how best to crank this puppy, what with previously really never running too many all valve amps ... dont get me wrong, I used many before but never a big un with 8 valves!! Woooot.
Cheers guys ...
Coco
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jan 23, 2007 06:35 pm What gets me is the concert of hendrix at the Isle of White, he's standing on stage in front of 3 full stacks, which I'm sure were the 1959 line, all 100 watt. He must have totally lost his hearing after doing concerts like that.
I don't even like going too hard rock concerts anymore, as I can hear the tinnitus train a-comin, and I don't need it to get any louder =).
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Jan 23, 2007 06:45 pm Sorry for taking this a bit OT but, have any of you changed to GrooveTubes? I'm seriously considering this for my 40 watt Traynor. Ya, that's right, 40 watts and it is still too ******' loud for me.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Jan 23, 2007 06:58 pm Hey BeerHunter: Groove Tubes are all rebranded Sovtek tubes, which are what Traynors come with stock. So its really not much of a switch. Groove Tubes just does some testing and picks the tubes they want...then they paint their name on them and sell them for a markup.
I went to eurotubes.com and bought the blues option for a full retube (all 7 tubes) and I really really really like what it did for my Traynor YCV80. Eurotubes is the US dealer for JJ Tubes, a Slovakian company that makes tubes out of the old Tesla factory.
They have several different options for full retube kits for Traynor amps (high gain, standard, blues, or mix and match). You can even email or call Bob at Eurotubes and tell him about what you have and what you want, and he'll converse with you until you've decided. Its pretty cool, and very reasonable prices.
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Jan 23, 2007 07:05 pm Hey Tad, thanks for the info. I knew they were Sovtek tubes but I didn't know that Groove Tubes just rebranded the Sovteks. I've heard that they (Groove Tubes) "breakup" at lower volume levels and this is something I think I need. I like the sound of my amp but I can't crank it to the "sweet spot" without over powering the drummer.
I will give Eurotubes a shout and see what they have to say. Did re-tubeing control your volumes a bit as well as give you your desired tone?
Jan 23, 2007 07:07 pm As a sidenote, I reckon, whilst speaking about drummers, I'd need at least 2 4x12 full stacks to overpower our drummer ;-)
He is, without doubt, one of the loudest drummers I have EVER heard !! Dont get me wrong, this is cool but man, is he loud ;-)
Coco.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jan 23, 2007 09:21 pm I was gonna post this after BH inquiry about tubes, but my connection took a nap:
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Groove tubes are just re-branded tubes of other makers, often not the greatest, but sometimes good.
The number they put on the tubes are to indicate it's bias rating, so you can buy a '4' tube, and then replace it with another '4' tube later when you retube without re-biasing. It doesn't indicate it's performance. Least that's the way they used to operate.
I don't know if that's what you meant, but i figured I'd throw that out there.
Mike at KCA nos tubes is a good guy to call. He's just in the tube business, and will ask what type of sound / use/ etc you're looking for, and get a set that'll do you right.
There's also eurotubes, but I can't remember the guys name. I think Tad did his traynor from them, and was pretty happy.
I'm looking at the JJ tesla for my super reverb output tubes (6l6gc), and probably some nos philips for my preamp tubes. I've used the philips before, and was pretty happy.
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BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Jan 23, 2007 09:38 pm pjk, that is what I was talking about. From what I understand the number on the tube can be reduced/increased to make the tubes break earlier/later and this is what I am trying to find out. I would like to make my amp hit its sweet spot before the volume gets unbearable (earlier).
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
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Jan 23, 2007 10:32 pm Nice one indeeed coco. Now get to recordin mate!!!
I need a new fix of that Scottish rock you do well.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Jan 23, 2007 11:05 pm You know, I asked Bob at eurotubes the same question BH. I was curious about tubes that could break up at lower volumes. But it turns out that isn't how it works. I tried to find the email he sent me as a reply but no luck. I think its because a certain tube is designed to operate at a certain voltage, and if you want a lower voltage you need an amp that is designed to work with lower voltage tubes. I think that's basically what Yellow Jackets do, they adapt an amp that uses the 6L-type socket like our Traynors do to use the lower output EL-type tubes.
I bought a HotPlate and its been my best friend now that Ive kind of figured it out and know what to expect from it.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jan 23, 2007 11:54 pm no, that's not how it works (the GT number). All tubes have an idle current that they use when not doing anything. This idle current needs to be set in the amp for everything to be hunky-dorey. This is called bias, and 'biasing' the amp, or setting the bias. This applies to fixed bias amps, not cathode bias amps. Cathode biased amps set the bias with a resistor, whereas fixed bias amps set bias with a potentiometer. Preamp tubes are cathode bias, so there's no bias setting needed.
Some tubes can run their idle current at, say, 35ma, whereas another tube of the same make and model may run at 45ma. You want two output tubes to be run at the same (or pretty close) current draw at idle, this way they'll perform pretty close to each other when taxed. This is called matching. Otherwise you can have odd harmonics (which may be a good thing) or they can exert different current loads to the other parts of the power section.
What GT does is gets a big batch of tubes and determines the optimum bias setting for each tube, then brands that setting on the tube, so all '4' tubes will run in the same bias setting, thereby releasing you from re-biasing your power section everytime you re-tube.
Pretty much, this has nothing to do with the performance characteristics of the power section. Or at least very little. You're much more able to change breakup levels with other settings, or different types of tubes, instead of playing with the bias. Plus, running an amp outside of it's safe zone, bias-wise, will shorten the life of the tubes, the output transformer, or both. You can do it, for a really great sound, but it may be short lived, and possible to hurt your OT (which spells lotta $$$ to replace).
On the voltage subject, you can drop voltage to get earlier breakup, but I wouldn't do it without knowing how to do it without problem. EVH was reported to run his 1987x off of a variac, and turn down the AC voltage to about 90 volts, instead of 120. This is called 'browning' the voltage in some instances, also some people call this 'getting a brown sound'. It's an earlier breakup, because there's not enough voltage to keep the sine wave clean for long.
Yellow Jackets allow amps using the 6L6 / EL34 type tube socket, to put lower wattage tubes in, namely the EL84. The EL84 is a low power version of the EL34, with a different pinout (9).
DISCLAIMER: all info above is stuff I've researched and learned on my own. I'm just a hack that reads =). If I'm off on some of the exact details, forgive me, i've been wrong before.
ADDITIONAL DISCLAIMER: biasing a tube amp can kill you, if done incorrectly. There's lots (and lots) of volts and amperes inside an amp, even when unplugged. Don't go in there without very good knowledge of how not to get zapped.
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Jan 24, 2007 03:45 pm Many thanks for the info pjk!
Jan 25, 2007 01:53 pm Just cranked the JCM and MAN this kicks ASSSS!
Man, its such a sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet tone its not true..like night and day compared to the old amp (which I dearly loved) !! I've been missing sheer pleasure for the last year or so since having the Les Paul !!
TUBBBES MAN!! Wooot wooot.
(though at number 2 and a bit I had to reach for the VPR switch !! Its loouuud!)
Cheers guys
Coco
P.S. gonna try the DI out tonight on our new song as it emulates speaker micin with zero sound for silent recording!! Cool
