Help! I need some advice on kit required for recording

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Member Since: Jan 30, 2006

When recording drums I use 4 mics and put them into a Tascam 4 track but when i put this into my PC for editing it obviously goes in as a single track. What piece of kit do I need that will send each track separately so that I can edit each separate track? hope you can help, thanks

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jan 30, 2006 08:24 am

Does your Tascam four track have an independent output on each track? if so, then you just need a computer sound card with four inputs such as the M-Audio Delta 44 www.homerecordingconnecti...udio+Sound+Card

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Since: Jan 30, 2006


Jan 30, 2006 08:28 am

thanks for your reply, no it doesnt. it has line out, monitor out and headphones. any other ideas??? many thanks

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jan 30, 2006 08:30 am

Then you first need to get a four track device that has four outs.

Is this a 4track cassette recorder? If so just by a better cassette recorder, or, better yet get a mixer with four subouts and the sound card I mentioned above and start recording them that way instead of with the existing four track.

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Since: Jan 30, 2006


Jan 30, 2006 08:33 am

Thanks again for your reply. could you recommend a reasonable priced mixer with 4 subouts?

Pinnipedal Czar (: 3=
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Since: Apr 11, 2004


Jan 30, 2006 08:35 am

Could you play each track separately from the Tascam into the DAW's, then line them up ?

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jan 30, 2006 08:35 am

2 subouts is pretty easy to find, 4 sub outs gets tougher, as they are generally bigger boards. The least expensive I can think of that I would dare recommend is www.homerecordingconnecti...t+Mixer+with+FX which is a bigger brother to the board I personally use...very nice stuff.

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Could you play each track separately from the Tascam into the DAW's, then line them up ?


Argh, yeah, that'd work, good shout, but what a drag...

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jan 30, 2006 08:36 am

Ya could do two at a time though if you have a stereo out (which I assume you do), just pan then hard left and right, then repan them where you want once they are in the software.

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Since: Jan 30, 2006


Jan 30, 2006 08:39 am

cheers for the advice, best i go busking to get some cash!!!!

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Jan 30, 2006 11:03 am

A less $$$ board with channel inserts will give you individual outs on each mic channel. Like a yamaha mg12/4.

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Since: Jan 07, 2003


Jan 30, 2006 11:09 am

waah, ive been asking this for so long but no one seems to answer in all different forums.. lol so il ask here..

if i use channel inserts, its pre-fader and pre-eq right ?? so when i start tracking my drums, i wouldnt have to worry about clipping?? since the fader/volume will be so low? nor it wont matter what my volume fader in the mixer is ?

or do i understand pre-fader correctly ?

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Jan 30, 2006 11:45 am

I believe that insert level is only controlled by the gain, or trim. EQ and fader come after the insert device sends the signal back into the channel. Eq and fader then only control what goes to the main buss, or sub buss.

As far as clipping, you can clip on any section of the signal chain. It doesn't matter if it's controlled by the gain, or fader, eq, master, whatever, so I'm not sure how it would change how you track your drums.

Basically, if you set the gain stage for that channel correctly, then the signal going into the computer will be set correctly. Learn to set gain on your board, and that part (insert -> PC) will be golden.

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Since: Jan 07, 2003


Jan 30, 2006 11:51 am

oh... so i still have to get a good signal to noise ratio using the gain/trim knob...

so its like setting your levels.. but instead of using the faders, i use the gain/trim knob?

mmm...kay.. thanks :D

Prince CZAR-ming
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Since: Apr 08, 2004


Jan 30, 2006 12:10 pm

exactly, you want the first input adjustment (gain, or trim) to be as hot as possible, without clipping. I'd say with 24 bit recording, you can cut back on the gain, so you don't have to worry about clipping so much, but still, to have the best Signal to noise ratio (S/N) you have to have the first input as hot as possible.

After the signal is past the gain section, then you can play around with it with a little less concern, but, if you record a weak signal, and have to increase fader to make it louder (either in software, or on the board later) then you'll be increasing the noise level as well. Which with 20 or so tracks, will keep adding up to a very noisy composition.

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