Feb 27, 2005 10:59 pm Well I just purchased the 512mb of ram off e-bay for $49.00 So I guess I need to go with the new p4 2.4 ghz 512 micro.
What would help this computer out
Posted on Feb 27, 2005 10:12 pm
GutterSlinger
Member Since: Jan 27, 2003
Hello all,
My system computer is a:
1.7ghz cel 400fsb 640meg ram one 20gig 7200 for os and one 40gig 7200 for audio. 2 delta 1010, and 1 delta 66 omni are the sound cards. Soyo P41S2MOBO windows xp home.
I am wanting to be able to record 12~16 tracks at one time and keep this computer from crashing.
Should I purchase a 2.4 512 400 intel,
or 512mb pc133 ram, or build another computer from scratch.
Any other ideas? I got to get a new cd out asap with my new band and our budget is very limited. All help is welcomed.
By the way it is good to be home again...whatz up pro guyz.
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Feb 27, 2005 10:59 pm Well I just purchased the 512mb of ram off e-bay for $49.00 So I guess I need to go with the new p4 2.4 ghz 512 micro.
Feb 28, 2005 01:28 am Faster CPU is always a good thing, but you will likely see more bang for your buck with Memory. Using a gig or more will probably allow you to do what your hoping for. If you have not already, I would go to the tips section and DL the tip for tuning your XP pc for recording. It will free up LOTS of resources.
Feb 28, 2005 07:10 am Yes I got 1152mb of ram now working on 1536mb. The highest cpu the board will handle is a 2.4ghz 400bus 512 cach intel...that is what the mobo specs say. Unit is already tuned for with the tips from last project with the 1010 and the 66 working together.
Feb 28, 2005 08:47 am Memory is always the best bet, that gig should do you good.
Feb 28, 2005 11:00 pm Well I just got another 512 so were looking at 1536mb and I am bidding on a 2.4ghz intel chip. I would love to go higher but that is all the mobo will do. Damn thing is over a year old no going on its 2nd project. Thanks for all your help, as soon as I get it up and running I will post back with the outcome.
Mar 01, 2005 12:49 am new motherboards are fairly cheap....I see top notch ones sell on Ebay for less than $75. I'd go that route. Easier to upgrade later.
Mar 01, 2005 06:56 am My problem with that is I would have to get new memory. My board took pc133 memory and to buy 2.5gig of memory would be more than the cpu and new board. I am on a very tight budget for this new project. I will have to build a new computer after this project has paid back.
Mar 01, 2005 07:04 am why on earth do you need 2.5gb of memory? Over a gig is only really the most useful if you are using many softsynths using hella-huge sample banks and things like that. Not saying that it won't help, but having 2.5gb of RAM in a 1.7gHz machine kinda seems like the ol' "hubcaps on a tractor" senario.
You would indeed be better off waiting and getting a bigger CPU rather than investing ANY more money in an antiquated RAM style that is much slower than your current FSB.
Mar 01, 2005 06:31 pm I just need to get through this CD project and then I will be able to build another system. I think 1.5gb of ram and a 2.4g cpu 400fsb should do what I need done. After the money starts coming in I can build a new system. Thanks DB
Mar 01, 2005 08:50 pm Yeah, I have a similar system, and upgrading my memory didn't do a thing for improving recording. I had 256 mb and upgraded to 768 MB. Nothing. And we're talking about the expensive stuff here. It cost me over $200. I think my 1.8 GHZ CPU is what's bogging me down now. It seems like the main issue is how CPU intensive the program you're using is. When I was running SONAR 1 I was able to do 30+ tracks all loaded with effects plug-ins without any problem. With SONAR 3 I can only do 15 or so with less effects plug-ins before I start having problems. It's a shame, but I love Sonar 3 so I can't go back now :)
Mar 01, 2005 10:28 pm Yes I can mix down around 20 to 25 tracks now with efx on minimal. Many of the efx are run on the subs or outboard and not on individual tracks taking up cpu power. I really don't have a problem mixxing... I want to record 5 drum inputs, a bass input, 2 key inputs, and 2 guitar, and a vocal scratch track input at the same time in one take. The most I have ever recorded on a machine like this is 4 ins at once. I have 2 1010 and 1 66 so the inputs are not a problem.I just want to make sure the machine can handle it before the band get started.
Is there an efx card for sonar out now? I have seen vst cards. I don't believe I have seen a dxi card.
We have been on a mackie d8b for the last year and 1/2 and now it is gone due to band member changes. Back to the pc DAW for me.
Mar 02, 2005 09:28 pm Went on with the new 2.4 512 400 cpu. got it off e-bay for $85.00. So new ram and new cpu...if it don't work looks like I got a new family computer and I will have to build a 3.0g 1m 800fsb computer...just hate to spend the production money on a system instead of cd pressing.
Mar 03, 2005 08:22 am Maybe this will help you with what you want to do. I have a AMD XP 3200+ processor and 512MB DDR ram (went to 1,536MB later on) and had a Delta 1010 and Aardvark 20/20+ soundcards. Went through my Soundcraft board with direct outs on every channel and was able to record 16 tracks at one time through Sonar 3. I don't know if you have been having problems with your computer but you should be able to record that many tracks with both your 1010's easily, I'm living proof of that.
Mar 03, 2005 12:42 pm That is exactly what I was looking for vdalehubbard, How did you get your direct outs from the sound cract board...send receive channel inserts? I have been think ing about that all week...if I take the preamps out from my samson 2422 I could use the 4 aux for seperate mon mix and each channel would be directly to the 1010's and just do the mixxing witht the sonar board after I am finished laying all the tracks.
Mar 03, 2005 01:35 pm Yeah, I didn't want to mess with directing channels with drums, guitars, etc. through aux. Other words, I wanted everything seperate for mixing and not have to group everything into aux and record like 2 to 4 channels at one time. What you need is a board that has direct outs on every channel. Plug your instuments/mics into each channel on the board, run a cable from the direct outs on every channel to the inputs on the soundcards (1010), and you have every channel being recorded seperatly into your computer. I use the soundcraft M12:
service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear
It's expensive but it's what I needed. Mackie has boards with direct outs but it's most likely more than this one. I believe that Behringer has one that is cheaper. I can speak for this board and the preamps are wonderful. Plus, you have the full functionallity of using this live with monitor outs, main outs, 12 preamps with direct outs, 4 stereo channels with stereo returns, it has everything you need and that is why I bought it.
Mar 03, 2005 04:57 pm Yes I have a Mackie Vlz pro I use live I just hate mixxing gear studio and live gig gear. I was wondering if the inserts could be used like that...I will have to try it and see. I understand each channel is what you want then you can mix it when they are done laying them down. you can always add but you can't take it apart!!
Mar 04, 2005 09:37 pm Got the new cpu in with the 1mb cach and 2.4 ghz. when sonar is running and I am mixxing 20 tracks with efx cpu ussage is around 30% to 40%...what a big differents from the celeron 1.7ghz. Ram is coming in maybe tomorrow.
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