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grrrrrrr
Member Since: Mar 29, 2004

OK. so I have now taught the songs to my bass player who has a fretless bass and jazz background. We are going for really simple sound. Jazz drums, simple bass, acoustic and voice. Bsically something like embelished acoustic with really good rythm musicians, but super chill.

The drums will be recorded live style in one stereo track since I only have two inputs on my tascam us-122. The bass will go direct straight down the middle.

So the acoustic will be important to give dimension to the recording. I basically play simple chords or pluck around a bit. I am going to mic the strings with my new akg 2000 (which has a very nice sound btw) and also go direct with the preamp. Will the difference between these sounds be enough to give dimension?

Or should I bounce down the stereo track into mono and pan it hard left? Then re-record the guitar on a new track, bounce down and pan hard right? This seemed to work on a recent tune, but sounded a bit messy since my strumming was not exacty the same. And changes in tempo (something i'm very into) was difficult to catch.

Maybe I could bounce and then try the little delay trick giving the right or left side 3-5ms delay? This is probably what I am gonna go for because I am lazy. Any oter tips would be welcome before I immerse myself into days of intense time wasting!

Usually the problem is fitting lots of instruments into a small space. I want few instruments to take up a lot. OK - now I wrote too much and you all wil have dozed off by now. Feel free to kill my topic dB if you feel that it is too rooky a topic. I just thought it was interesting to have to look at an inverse situation when you have lots of panning space and want to make things sound full.

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...bringing sexy back
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Since: Jul 01, 2002


May 10, 2004 01:57 pm

nothing too rookie here...especially with blagging amateurs like myself around.

im just doing something just like this myself, and i recorded two parts and just tracked em far left and right, though it took a few goes to get it perfect. sounds nice a fat, despite only having a guitar part and a simple drum track so far, so its working for me...

ill send ya a link when its a bit nmore complete, if it helps...

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Since: May 03, 2004


May 10, 2004 09:27 pm

Hey Mauz,

The difference between direct from an acoustic guitar preamp and the akg2000 could be enormous. The direct from the guitar preamp will sound quite close up and the mic will have the sound of the room, depending on how far away from the sound source and how much gain on the mic preamp you're using and the pattern on the mic. That mic is cardioid so you won't get a lot of the room, at least not like you would with an omni.

grrrrrrr
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Since: Mar 29, 2004


May 11, 2004 05:18 am

I'm also going to try two cardiod mics AND the preamp in stereo using a mixer before a compressor and then going into the audio interface. With one mic panned slightly left, the other panned slightly right and the internal down the middle. Fiddling around with mic positioning last night I got a pretty good sound, but unfortunately girl showed up and I got side-tracked...

Idiot.
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Since: Apr 22, 2004


May 11, 2004 06:35 am

pleeease don't do the delay trick! :(

just double-track.. if anything it'll get your playing better.

grrrrrrr
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Since: Mar 29, 2004


May 11, 2004 11:48 am

Ok - Ok. If you say so. I am gonna try and go for the wicked stereo sound and maybe a bit of the double stuff.

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Since: May 03, 2004


May 11, 2004 11:55 am

When I double-track, I do several takes and then choose the two that sound best together. Last time I did this, it was about 12 takes for a vocal. Probably could have done it in fewer, but when you're on a roll... I think my vocalist was having far too much fun too...

grrrrrrr
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Since: Mar 29, 2004


May 12, 2004 03:07 am

Good strategy. I will try to get something up soon, but I still have much work to do...

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