I bought the Delta 4/4

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Cone Poker
Member Since: Apr 07, 2002

Okey Kids, i got the Delta 4/4. How should I set this up to my mixer?

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Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Sep 01, 2002 05:05 pm

Which Behringer do you have?

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Sep 01, 2002 05:57 pm

Actually, i don't use a Behringer... I've got a phonics (gag) mixer. I'm slowly upgrading my gear, and a good mixer is on the list of things to get. Anyway, I've got a Phonics MM1705

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 01, 2002 06:00 pm

Run your mixer outs to two of your Delta ins, two of your Delta outs to your amp/speakers. The other two ins can be used for other sources, such as an amp simulator, synths or whatever later on, the other outs might be very handy to use to have an option to run your music into a headphone amp, so while recording miking things like vocals and such your (and several other with a nice headphone amp) can all listen over headphones so the sound doesn't bleed.

At least that is my first thought, there are other ways to do it though. IF you mixer has a couple of busses out, you could run the other two outs back into your mixer and only turn them on when you need them and then listen to the mixers headphones outs (assuming it has them)...what Phonics mixer do you have?

I think it's time to write an article about signal path configs in a PC-based studio...I have been thinking about that for a few days now...

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Sep 01, 2002 06:09 pm

I've got the phonics MM1705. It doesn't have any busses out that I know of, but I know very little about mixers actually. Anyway, yeah, I don't have a pair of studio monitors right now, using the pc speakers that are connected to each other so it would only take one out, leaving three for other things.

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Sep 01, 2002 06:12 pm

And I think an article on signal paths and things would be very useful

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Sep 01, 2002 07:28 pm

The plug on your speaker's is only one jack, but it is a stereo jack. So you will need a Y cable, that is 2 1/4" male mono to one (i'm guessing here) 1/8" female stereo plug.

Or you can use an addapter to get the 1/8" jack up to 1/4", but that is just adding more place's for the signal to get mucked up.

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Sep 01, 2002 09:50 pm

Okey, I don't know what I'm doing with this thing... I'm playing an MP3 but not hearing anything... I've got the speakers hooked up to the output of the delta (the one wire going to the output...) yet I'm not hearing any sound

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Sep 01, 2002 10:06 pm

Loki, did ya read my last post? Are the speaker's self powered, or do ya have to plug them into a power supply? And did ya go to your mp3 player's preferance's and tell it to use the Delta out's, (either 1 & 2, or 3 & 4)?

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Sep 02, 2002 12:39 am

Okey, they are powered by a little power supply plugged into my wall... I don't have a Y-cable that I need though, I have one with one plug that goes in, and two to plug into (does that make sense?) but not the kind I need... Can I just plug the speakers into one of the Outputs?

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Sep 02, 2002 01:06 am

Yes, but you will only get a mono signal, and probably only one speaker will work. OK, so one end plug's into the line out of the PC, or the Delta now. Does that jack have what is known as a tip-ring-sleeve (three seperate contact point's) or is it just two?

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Sep 02, 2002 01:23 am

I don't know? How do I tell? I've found that if I plug the speakers into the line out from my reg soundcard, not the delta, all the sounds work, but from the delta nothing works... Anyway, on my Y cable, I don't know how to tell if it is 3 tip ring or not. But It's only got one actual plug on it, one that will go into something that is. The other to ends are for you to plug things into...

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 02, 2002 07:36 am

A ring tip sleeve is exactly as it sounds, the jack has a tip, a little plastic separator, a ring, another separator and the rest of the jack.

So, if you plug the speakers into your Delta, you may have to go into your control panel and set Windows to use the Delta as well as in your software.

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Sep 02, 2002 07:09 pm

Alright, how do I tell windows to use the Delta?

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 02, 2002 07:23 pm

In the "Sound and Multimedia" panel in the Windows Control panel.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Sep 02, 2002 08:30 pm

And like I said B4, you will need to go into most of your app's preferance's and tell them to use the Delta.

But that is not going to do you any good if you are only going to hear one speaker by using only on output of the Delta. These output jack's are not stereo jack's, they are mono, one channel. Meaning they cannot send a stereo signal, which is what your speaker cable need's to see. If they are your comin everyday multimedia speaker's. They have what I described earlier. A small jack that is made for a computer sound card's 1/8" stereo line or speaker out. It recieve's a stereo signal with one plug, becuase the plug actually has 3 wire's, one for common, one for right channel and one for left channel. The Delta actually has balanced output jack's, which if you plug in the stereo jack that is made for the multimedia speaker's you could possibly do damage to the card.

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Sep 02, 2002 09:12 pm

Okey, so don't plug thigns in without knowing what I'm doing... gotcha...

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Sep 05, 2002 09:22 am

Okey, Got a couple of Questions:
Firstly, I have a pair of headphones and an adapter to make them 1/4" jack (guitar plug size), can I plug this into the Delta or will it still be mono?
Second, I am not getting any sound out of the Delta, I have not tried to run an instrument or anything into it.
Also I am not getting any sound out of the factory onboard soundcard...
Do I need to disable the soundcard that came with the CD? Is the Delta an actual soundcard in that sense? Would it be possible to get step by step instructions on how to set up my Delta? I have no idea what I am doing guys.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Sep 05, 2002 09:28 am

each jack on the 1010 is a mono jack, so it will be a mono signal going in or coming out. The only way to get stereo is to use two jacks. I don't think the Delta has anywhere to plug in a CD player, this is where the onboard sound would come in to play.

Step-by-step...that should have come with your Delta, my M-Audio card had a few senarios to choose from and breif explinations of how to use the card with them. I am working on an article about this, but I have no time or room in the context of a forum to go step-by step.

Run your mixer into the card with all instruments plug into it. Then run the outs of the card into your amp/speakers. That's the short version.

Cone Poker
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Since: Apr 07, 2002


Sep 05, 2002 08:08 pm

Alrighty... seem to have taken this topic as far as it will go. Thanks for putting up with the dumb questions

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Sep 05, 2002 10:26 pm

There are no dumb question's Loki.

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