Dec 03, 2010 10:33 am as far as i know its very common, especially for drums
Faked Instruments
Posted on Dec 03, 2010 08:54 am
mclir9
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Member Since: Aug 13, 2006
Just out of curiosity... I wonder how many professional studios actually midi in drum tracks for instance, even if it's not the entire drum kit but part of it. Even Keyboards & Bass. I can't imagine being able to do this with guitars and singing of course, but as far as the others is this a common practice or is it complete taboo??
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Dec 03, 2010 10:33 am as far as i know its very common, especially for drums
Dec 03, 2010 10:34 am I'm sure it varies by genre, style and artist, but some music sounds very, very electronic...
Dec 03, 2010 10:54 am How about with Rock music or Metal??
Dec 03, 2010 10:59 am I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out many of the drums in metal are triggers, if not full MIDI in some cases...
Dec 03, 2010 11:21 am yeah, especially when u say rock, if u also include things like pop rock, or just more generic forms of rock alot of it is MIDI straight coz its not complicated.
Dec 03, 2010 01:05 pm Thats what I was thinking too Crux, because there is so much out there today that doesn't really vary much. When I listen to the drums in alot of rock songs on the radio, I can hear where it would be very easy to fake them.
Dec 03, 2010 01:14 pm Also, I think some instruments are more easily faked than others.
Stringed instruments I think are -very- hard to get sounding authentic with midi alone. There are too many nuances and subtleties of the instrumental idiosyncrasies. Sympathetic string vibrations, sliding up and down the fretboard, portamento, hammer-ons, pull-offs, many many many different bowing techniques(in the case of violins and such) There are just too many factors that are missed when going the midi route. I'd say the same for bass, but since it tends to be played more simply in a lot of music, it can kinda squeeze by I think. Probably not so much for say a jazz bassist.
Wind instruments....woodwinds or saxes can probably be convincing, especially with a wind controller, but brass is a little harder due to the buzzing involved. For popular music, sure you can get some good sounds via midi. But classical music has more nuances. Faking a trumpet concerto with midi trumpet would probably take more time than it was worth on the automation alone. Breath control, pitch bending using the lips, half-valving, glissando, subtle tone changes using the 1st and 3rd valve tuning slides (which is very required for certain notes to bring them more in pitch) playing style, character....Sure you can sample to your hearts content, and have a metric ton of articulation data, and some genius could script it all together, maybe keyswitches to do articulation changes on the fly.
But even as sophisticated as tech has become, it simply cannot replace the sheer organic and emotive nature of a live musician. The best newer tech can hope to achieve is a close approximation.
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