Needing advice

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Member Since: Nov 27, 2008

Hello,

I need a little help. I don't mix music myself and I don't know a damn thing about it. I'm about to purchase a rare 7" vinyl record for a friend of mine who mixes a lot. But I'm not sure you can play 7" vinyls on spinning jobs. Can you?
That's probably a dumb question but I'm not sure.

Thanks for any help.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Nov 27, 2008 06:18 pm

Welcome to HRC, and happy thanksgiving, if you are in the US anyway.

isn't 7inch vinyl the typical 45rpm?

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Nov 27, 2008 10:06 pm

Yes, the normal 7" was a 45 RPM single with one track per side.

There are also 7" EP's that were produced as well but that wasn't really until the 70's or so which contained a couple tracks on each side. If short enough maybe 3 per side and played at the 33 1/3 RPM speed.

But indeed there are still turntable being made and if your friend is a remixer I would hope he has one for sure.

May I ask what rare 7" you are looking into. I am a vinyl collector as well.

MASSIVE Mastering, LLC
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Since: Aug 05, 2008


Nov 28, 2008 01:12 am

Hey Noize -- Sidebar: Been getting more requests for vinyl transfers lately. Always turned them away (until I had a job come in for Paul Harvey a few weeks ago - Rather take a hit on the job than not make PH happy).

Didn't want to spend a bundle (I'm not going to drop $75k on a table like some mastering places I know) -- Just wanted something "nice" -- After going back and forth on about a zillion different pieces, I wound up with a Rega P3 with the RB300 arm and the glass platen, a Dynavector 10X4 (moving coil), some special counterbalance that I never heard of (and can't remember the name of at the moment) going through a Cambridge Audio Azur 640P into the chain.

Eh, it's okay - But I gotta tell ya... I don't personally have any vinyl MFG'd later than around 1987 or so. And most that I have was played on some POS player at home that I probably stacked nickels on the arm to keep it from skipping around.

Enough back-story...

Any particular stacks of wax from the last few years that you can recommend as good "reference material?" I have a 200g calibration record coming in from somewhere... And I know the thing is set up properly and all (I'm pretty picky about that now, unlike in the 1980's on my old, crappy home system), but most the vinyl I have is just bad sounding stuff. The only transfers I've been doing to this point are some fairly old and rather rare stuff that sounds fine, but as long as I have this thing sitting here, I'd (A) like to hear its potential with some slightly more discrimination material and (B) actually be able to enjoy it some without subjecting it to the clicks and scratches of the past that have been sitting in my garage for the past 20 years.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Dec 01, 2008 06:23 pm

Hey Massive, I'll get back to this. I've been offline for a few days and just finally am getting back here.

I have a single reference disc from 1981 that I used. But also have a couple 200g imports that work well depending on what I'm setting up to transfer.

And ya, I'm a picky SOB when it comes to that as well.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Dec 01, 2008 10:03 pm

Wow, Rega though. That brings back memories. My third turntable was a Planar 3, which cost more then the P5 cost now and that was in the mid 70's. I bought it to replace my Thorens with a Rabco tonearm that had been modified too many times and was a weekly chore to keep up.

I still use an SL-8E on a custom built platter. But again it is not something I would recommend for light use. But once the thing is set up properly it is pretty bullet proof. Although the tonearm was not always trust worthy in the day. Now if set up and maintained it is a great piece.

I've been trying a Esoteric REK-O-KUT CVS-16 which can be had for around the $600 mark. I've used it more for 78's as that is what it does best. That and 14" vinyl.

A friend from the vinyl world has been trying to get me to bet this one. HiFi News Analogue Test LP, which can be had for around $50 and is a 180g piece. I have not yet tried it and not sure I will.

For quick stuff I will use either a trusty old SL-1200 or a modified Yamaha from around 1982 I think.

I use Ortofon, Blue Angel Audio, BlueNote and a Lyra Helikon which is on the SL-8E and is for limited use only.

You'll like that Dynavector, it is a killer cartridge worth twice the price in my book.

MASSIVE Mastering, LLC
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Since: Aug 05, 2008


Dec 02, 2008 12:07 am

I'm liking it more... It (well, the whole thing, but I was really referring to the cartridge) only had 10 hours on it. Without a doubt, it's "warmed up" considerably - More than considerably over the past - I dunno, it probably has 60 hours on it by now.

My problem is that the best chunk of wax I have is a 1987(?) Ploydor 12" 33 radio single of Yngwie. I don't think it was ever played, but it was still stored in a detached (so, -20 to +120F) garage for 20 years... I just need to hear (A) something modern and well done (and hopefully reasonably free of clicks n' pops) (B) DSOTM and maybe I can find a good copy (preferably a 12" radio single) of "The Logical Song" so I can find out what sort of horsepower this thing actually has.

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Dec 02, 2008 09:04 pm

MM, if you can find one there is a 200g import of Fleetwood Macs Rumors album that I often have used for that purpose. It is a master series disc and extremely high quality as you are looking for.

I also like using another 200g master series by Chuck Mangione, its Children Of Sanchez. Killer stuff.

Herbie Hanckock is another, which is on another import on lighter vinyl, 160g I do believe. Its the album with Rocket, the import has a different cover if I'm not mistaken.

Oh lord I almost forgot. If you like the Yngwie one you might look for an import of Satriani's Surfing with the Alien. I have that on a 200g and it as well is good.

And indeed, Supertramp would be good as well now that you mention it. Oh lord, I feel a vinyl weekend coming on, I'm a bit feverish.

My oldest son actually found me a limited issue 200g of Slipknot Iowa. I have as of yet not played it. I may have to break down and spin that one up as well. Lots of bottom on that.

Another to try and find which is not an easy one is an import on 200g of Deep Purple Perfect Strangers. I think you can find the American release for around $20 though which is still good.

OK, I'm sweating now, enough of this vinyl talk. :-)

MASSIVE Mastering, LLC
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Since: Aug 05, 2008


Dec 03, 2008 12:11 am

Ah - Rumors - How could I forget...

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Dec 04, 2008 07:51 pm

I almost did forget about that one. Lots of stuff goin on there.

Found a 180g remaster here. www.musicdirect.com/product/79444
Probably almost as good as my 200 I would be willing to bet. And a steel at only $24.95.

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