Greetings from a new member - What more do I need?
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Posted on Nov 20, 2008 10:31 pm
STLmusic
Member Since: Nov 20, 2008
This is a great board. I've been into gear for a LONG time. Now, I'm trying to make a living at it. Below is a partial inventory of my rig. I would appreciate any insight on what additional gear would put me in the zone for doing great professional rock shows in medium sized clubs and outdoor shows. Thanks in advance for your thoughts and thanks for having this board. It's already been a great knowledge base for me.
Speakers - Mains
2 x JBL SR4733a - Double 15s, 2" Horn Driver - 2400 watts per side
2 x EAW LA325 - Double 15s, Double 7s, 2" Horn Driver - 1200 watts per side
Speakers - Subs
2 x JBL SRX 728s - Double 18s - 3600 watts per side
2 x PV118 - Single 18 - 500 watts per side
Speakers - Monitors
4 x EAW LA215 - 15" sub, 2" horn driver - 500 watts per monitor
4 x Sennheiser IEM300G1 - Wireless In-Ear Monitor systems
Power Amps
2 x QSC 3602 - 3600 watts per side mono-bridged @ 4 ohms (to Power JBL subs)
1 x QSC 3102 - 1000 watts per side @ 4 ohms Stereo (to Power EAW monitors)
2 x QSC 2450 - 2400 watts per side mono-bridged @ 4 ohms (to Power JBL mains)
2 x QSC 1450 - 1400 watts per side mono-bridged @ 4 ohms (to Power EAW mains)
1 x PV2600 - 540 watts per side @ 8ohms Stereo (to Power PV subs)
1 x AC RMA 1000 - Stereo 150w @ 4 ohms, 220w @ 2 ohms, mono-bridged 400w @ 4 ohms (not used)
Drive Rack
1 x dbx DriveRack 260
1 x dbx RTA-M Reference Microphone
1 x dbx 166xl - Compressor, Limiter, Gate
3 x dbx 266xl - Compressor, Gate
1 x dbx 231 - Dual 31 band Graphic EQ
1 x Yamaha Single 31 band Graphic EQ
1 x dbx 223XL Stereo 2-Way/Mono 3-Way Crossover
1 x dbx 234XL Mono 4-way or stereo 2-way/3-way Crossover
1 x Furman PL8 Power Conditioner
Mixing Console (I WANT an LS9-32, eventually. lol)
1 x Mackie CFX16
Mics
4 x Shure SM58 - vocal
4 x Shure SM57 - instrument
1 x Sennheiser e609 - guitar cab
1 x Sennheiser e835 - vocal
1 x Audio Technica - Kick drum
1 x Audix - Snare drum
1 x Audix - Tom drum
1 x Audix - Floor Tom drum
Lighting
8 x American DJ Par 64
2 x Dimmer packs f
2 x 12 foot Par 64 light pole
6 x American DJ Par 56 can with gels
1 x Dimmer pack for Par 56 can (with chaser program & auto music synchronization)
1 x 10 foot Par 56 light pole (holds 4 Par 56)
2 x Floor mount for Par 56 Can
1 x Foot controller for 2 floor mounted Par 56 cans
4 x Rotating Mini-Search light
Video
1 x Toshiba laptop/video projector
1 x Wolf 96" widescreen
1 x Portable DVD player
1 x Video camera (consumer grade)
Snakes, etc
1 x Whirlwind Medusa 150 foot 24 send, 8 return snake (all XLR)
1 x 16 Channel splitter snake 10 foot and 3 foot tails (no transformers) (all XLR)
4 x Live Wire passive Direct box
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Nov 20, 2008 11:49 pm I'm more of a PM5D guy. But the LS9 is a good desk. If your going to go that route, I would suggest taking a look at the M7CL. You get better control with the M7, plus a bigger screen
Your list is impressive. You cover all of the bases. Something that you don't see all of the time.
One thing that I would suggest doing. Is to either put a ground lift for all of the channels of your split on your snake. When you run a monitor console, it will keep it pin quite.
If there is no room for a ground lift switch, then there is a trick that you can do. Take a 1k capacitor, and a 1k resistor. Put them in series between pin 2, and pin 1, of each of the XLR's of your snake. This will act as a ground lift for the split.
Other then that, the only thing that I see that you may want, is an active DI for the bass. And maybe a condenser or two for overheads for the drums on outdoor shows.
Well, always nice to see another live sound guy out there. Welcome to the HRC. Hope to hear some more form you soon.
Nov 21, 2008 09:29 am Seconding the M7. I still get called in for a fair bit of FOH at a local performing arts facility that now has a M7 for "the bigger shows" and a LS9 in the booth.
And the first thing I do when I get into the booth is start punching at the LS9's (NON-touch screen) display.
It's a decent board - But not "fast enough" for typical live sound IMO. The M7 is slow enough - even if you're well-rehearsed on it. But the flexibility is worth it once you can get through all those menus. No racks of compressors and EQ's, no outboard effects units - It's a dream. With the M7, you can fairly easily run a relatively large input list and 6 or 8 monitor mixes from FOH without issue.
Nov 21, 2008 08:06 pm Yep. I agree too. Just a matter of finding the extra $$$ for the M7. Regardless, with either the ls9 or m7, I love the idea of not carting around racks of gear.
Good info on the splitter snake...thanks again.
Nov 21, 2008 08:17 pm I also just watched a few YouTube videos on the BE-MIX stuff that is compatible with the Yamaha digital desks. Basically, allows you to run the board from a Palm device using bluetooth. The FOH guy was on stage doing the monitor mixes with his Palm Pilot. Pretty soon, snakes are going to be a thing of the past, methinks.
Nov 22, 2008 11:11 am Well, the traditional snake as we know it, will be around for a whole longer.
The price of the digital snakes is still very high. I don't see the price dropping anytime soon.
The idea of a complete wireless system can not be supported at this time, due to bandwidth issues.
As far as running the desk with Bluetooth. I do this with all of the Yamaha desks. Not Bluetooth, but with a Tablet computer.
Now I am controlling much more then just the desk. I'm running Smaartlive and the Dolby Lake software. Along with the Ashly suite.
What I do then, is to have my main computer hooked up to all of the physical hardware. Then using a wireless router, I then walk around with my Tablet. I have much larger range with this, then the any Bluetooth device. We have found that on a outdoor show, I can go around 500' before I have dropout issues. Plus the Tablet has a larger screen to work with.
Don't let the Bluetooth be your deciding factor. BE-MIX is something I never heard of. They might be good. But since it does not appear on band riders, it may be to new. Which means that it may be buggy. The Yamaha Studio Manager program has been around for a while. Just about all of the bugs have been worked out of it.
Nov 22, 2008 11:34 am Yeah, eh.... I just looked over at the Be Mix web site.
I have to say.... Run far, and run fast away from this.
The idea that Yamaha was taken aback by their desk moving on it's own. Like they never saw this before, is bull.
Yamaha developed the Studio Manager program just for this reason. And when the PM1D was first introduced to the world, Yamaha demonstrated the desk by running it on a Tablet.
Be Mix, is very similar to a system that a company around here in Philly developed. It was called the Handby system. I believe that it's still around. Although most manufactures have a disclaimer on their warranty, stating use of a Handby will void the warranty.
Just something to keep in mind.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Nov 22, 2008 04:16 pm Yep, Be-Mix is something to stay far away from indeed. In fact one of the acts on their website that did indeed invest in a system from them spent less the 6 weeks with it and had nothing but aggravation with it. The warranty and customer satisfaction claim is bunk as well. They are now in the process of using legal means to get their money back.
So I must agree with Rob, stay as far away from that lot as you can.
Nov 22, 2008 04:52 pm Good to know, guys. I am no where near needing ANY type of wireless setup at this point. The tablet does look extremely versatile if I ever get to that point. Like I said, the VERY weak link in my system right now is the board. I will definitely go digital when I upgrade. It's just a matter of whether I'll drop the cash for the LS9 or the M7. Either way, looks like the tablet is compatible with both, correct?
Nov 22, 2008 04:57 pm Yes. It's just the windows format that you want. Sorry to say, at this moment, Mac does not make a Tablet.
Your just running remote desktop to run the Studio Manager on your main PC.
