Off time!

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Member Since: Jan 22, 2006

When I record something in sonar3 the timing is really off, it is terribly noticeable. It is really irritating me, because the sound is quite off. If someone could help me it would be great, maybe its something to do with the bit rate, not sure.

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Member
Since: Jan 24, 2006


Sep 22, 2007 02:40 pm

You need to tell me what your setup is.

If you are recording into a low end soundcard using the the line in then it's always going to lag. If you have a decent audio interface then the problem lies elsewhere :)

Member
Since: Jan 22, 2006


Sep 22, 2007 11:11 pm

I've got a NVIDIA nforce audio card, not low end, not the best although.

Member
Since: Jan 24, 2006


Sep 23, 2007 12:29 am

IS that the one on the motherboard nForce2, I have the exact same one and it doesn't work for real time recording :)

How are you inputting ? Through the line in ? Most recording has to be done with a specialist music soundcard or an external interface, the "good" soundcards out there for home use are often tailored for playback not recording.

Hold 'Em Czar
Member
Since: Dec 30, 2004


Sep 23, 2007 04:36 am

are you experiencing a "chipmunk" effect?

or are things just generally drifting out of time with each other?

Member
Since: Jan 22, 2006


Sep 23, 2007 01:19 pm

The latter, its usually drifting out of time. Umm, i used to have a really bad sound card a few months ago, but it was switched out. Really maybe the problem isn't fixable but as the song goes on, it becomes quite noticeable. I use the line in. If there isn't a solution to this problem could any of you possibly tell me what i may need to purchase in order to get this working. Man, this is why i usually use me old 4-track.

Hold 'Em Czar
Member
Since: Dec 30, 2004


Sep 23, 2007 01:27 pm

hmmm this problem comes up alot!!!

i'm not sure why though, although it's been addressed several times, and many more on other forums i've seen...

this particular problem always stands out in my head because i have NO IDEA why it happens or how to fix it.

sorry man...

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
Contributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002


Sep 24, 2007 01:59 am

here might be the problem and a possible fix.
Latency- the amount of time between a signal getting to the sound card and the time it comes out the speaker. Generally the better the sound card the lower the latency. Directly effected by processor efficiency and number/ type of processing effects (this being the problem)

You most likely need to adjust the latency settings. Under Options | Audio | General move the Mixing Latency Slider all the way to “Safe” and set the “Buffers in playback queue” to 2.
from cakewalk (you can also try this)

If you’re using the soundcard that came with your computer you should go to Options | Audio | Advanced and set you driver mode to “MME 32bit” (or check the box “Always use MME interface, even when WDM drivers are available.”) Now re-launch the program and try again.

the best thing to do IMO is to save up a little mony and invest in a card made for recording . there are a lot of em about and that ramge from less than 100 bucks to well more than what i get a year.

SM7b the Chuck Noris of Mic's
Contributor
Since: Jun 20, 2002


Sep 24, 2007 02:12 am

here are a couple , PCI, USB and firewire, i don't know how many tracks you want to record at once.
PCI-
www.zzounds.com...item--MDOAP2496 i have had this card for 6 years and it works like a gem to this day.
www.zzounds.com...tem--ECHMIAMIDI this ones nice if you don't want to use the RCA connections
www.zzounds.com...tem--THKMIMD442
this ones a fav around here.
USB-
www.zzounds.com...item--BEHUCA202 (here is the least epensive one i've found)
www.zzounds.com...m--MDOFASTTRACK
www.zzounds.com.../item--LINTPUX1 ( great little box runs off of the computer and it comes with a crap load of stuff)

Firewire ( more expensive)
www.zzounds.com...tem--PRSINSPIRE
www.zzounds.com...tem--MACONYXSAT
and they all go up from there.

Member
Since: Jan 22, 2006


Sep 24, 2007 01:29 pm

I think i sort of fixed it. i just changed the sampling rate to 44100. Not sure what that does but I used to have it at 11025 so I'm not sure. And by the way, I appreciate all the help. I really do, thanks.

www.officialphrak.com
Member
Since: Sep 18, 2007


Sep 25, 2007 02:46 pm

hey...this is a bit late i know but i experienced the same fault when i used to record with a dynamic mic

i used to use the mini jack microphone in on my onboard soundcard haha i originally had this problem and found if you play with the latency settings it works and also the sampling rate should be at 44100 as far as i am aware...

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