dB in relation to volume in Sonar

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Conjurer of Emotion
Member Since: Jan 14, 2006

I really do not understand the difference between the volume bar and decibel bar for each track in Sonar. I know that adjusting the dB bar will affect the overall trim and raises or lowers listening volume. But the volume bar is there too..and raises and lowers listening volume..why are they both there?

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Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


May 28, 2006 09:22 pm

Goldenmean, The trim control is actually a pre-fader control. Both the trim and volume sliders work and are measured in dB full scale. But the trim control will allow you to do things to help even out your main faders so they are not real far away from each other during things like fades and such.

Example is you have 4 tracks of drums. One track is say overheads with mostly brass on them. To get them to match wellin the mix you had to turn you regualr fader up to full +10dB. Now if you want to do a fade at the end the brass will not fade and semm louder when the other tracks are done. To make all 4 tracks work together you can simply set your overhead tracks level to 0dB like the other 3 and use the trim fader to bring the real level back to +10dB. Now when you do a fade or FX process the track will not be louder in reality then the others.

Hope that made sense.

Noize

Hold 'Em Czar
Member
Since: Dec 30, 2004


May 28, 2006 09:27 pm

yeppers, i use it for 'last touchup mixing'....when i use alotta volume automation, it can get awfully confusing, and time consuming, adjusting every bar between nodes....so i just grab the trim as an 'overall' type adjustment....one thing i've noticed is ya gotta adjust your compressors threshold setting when ya grab the trim.

Conjurer of Emotion
Member
Since: Jan 14, 2006


May 30, 2006 02:00 pm

hmm so its just a way to choke the prefader signal so that all of your faders stay near unity rather than being all over the place? Is that pretty much it or does it have more use to it?

Hold 'Em Czar
Member
Since: Dec 30, 2004


May 30, 2006 02:15 pm

ummm kinda, it's more for gain staging and makin' sure you have a good level before you hit your effects....

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002


May 31, 2006 06:03 pm

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hmm so its just a way to choke the prefader signal so that all of your faders stay near unity rather than being all over the place? Is that pretty much it or does it have more use to it?


Yep, that is pretty much the whole of it. I use it like that all the time.

Conjurer of Emotion
Member
Since: Jan 14, 2006


May 31, 2006 08:29 pm

ok glad i understood :)

Thanks for the help guys.

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