Jun 23, 2004 04:04 pm check this out... www.mercenaryaudio.com/fmrrnmp.html
Looking For a Mic Preamp
Posted on Jun 23, 2004 03:50 pm
Keegan
Do U Beleev in D-Flo?
Member Since: Jun 15, 2004
I'm looking to buy a mic-pre in the very near future. I think I have it narrowed down to either the Behringer MIC2200, or the ART TPSII. I came to this conclusion based on budget and the fact that they are both tube preamps. It will be used mostly for recording acoustic guitar. Two channels are preferred so I can use it for close miking and add another mic for the room later without buying another amp.
Does any body have any experience with either of these units, or have any ideas on the subject in general? I'm open the suggestions, but I am trying to keep the price around $200. I may be able to go higher if there is a really compelling reason to.
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Jun 23, 2004 04:20 pm A little more than I was looking to spend, but much quieter than the two units I was looking at...impressive. The inserts are a nice touch too esecially given the fact that I don't have a mixer.
Jun 23, 2004 04:44 pm yeah... i was replying to your " I may be able to go higher if there is a really compelling reason to" comment...
Jun 24, 2004 10:46 am It looks like they also have a mic pre/compressor combo mounted in a rack tray. That would be nice seeing as I need a compressor too. Might be worth the time I'd have to wait to save the buck$.
Jun 24, 2004 03:20 pm After thinking about it some more, I decided that the RNP is just too expensive now.
However, I talked myself into including the Behringer T1953 among my possible choices. I like the fact that the "tube sound" is adjustable. Does anybody have any opnions on this unit?
Jun 25, 2004 12:11 am I would look at the Joemeek vc3 for a pre-comp combo before I would look at behringer piece. You can do a google search and chekkem out. They sell for around 199.00
Jun 25, 2004 12:44 am Keegan,
I have one, but I have only been using it for about a month now. I've been using it for vocals on a heavy metal album. I am using an NT1 with it and quite frankly the vocalist is just now really starting to "work" the mic. I noticed a couple of passages that I recorded tonight where just exceptional in regard to tone. I wish I had more for you, but it just takes time and listening. There are so many factors. The constant adjustment on the saturation point of the tubes is a very nice option and they do a nice job of softening saturation. Basicly compressor-esk. With the mic trim driving pretty hard, the amplification set about mid way and the saturation set at about 1 o'clock, it softens the sensitivity of the NT1 a little too, which for this application is nice.
Again, I wish I had more. Ask again in a year!
Jun 25, 2004 09:28 am This is turning out to be more difficult than I had hoped. I was looking at some of the reviews on Harmony-Central, the reviews seem to be pretty split most of the time.
Some people hated the T1953, one guy claimed the tubes weren't even connected. Other people loved it, but no real middle ground.
About the VC3 the biggest complaint seemed to be about the phantom power supply on the unit. It was said to be very noisy.
Oddly enough, the ART TPS II got pretty good reviews, but no one here has mentioned it yet.
I don't know about the credibility of harmony-central reviews though.
Here is the review index by manufacturer.
www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/
Jun 25, 2004 10:04 am That kinda makes sense to me actually. Last time I was down at the referb center for Musicians friend I saw a good number of 1953's out on the floor with rather disturbing physical defects. Meters hanging loose, tubes loose, etc. I have seen this in past visits with other equipment models by Behringer. This is not to slight Behringer per my personal use. I have never had a problem and I use a lot of Behringer equipment. I am wondering however if their manufacturing process sometimes suffers from "shortcommings". I have heard chatter in the past of reliability issues.
I doubt this helps in your decision making, but I am wondering if it is akin to buying a car. Get a Wednesday car not a Monday or Friday!
Jun 25, 2004 10:24 am Well, all that said I think I'm going to go with the TPS II. People seem to generally be happy with the sound quality, and reliability of the unit. I think the V3 "canned settings" should be fine for what I'm doing, and may even provide the tone I'm looking for. Even if I hate the presets I can set it to neural and use outboard EQ, compression, etc.
Thanks for the input, and I'll let you know how it turns out.
Jun 25, 2004 01:25 pm Joemeek knows compression like nobody else, even though the original designer, Ted Fletcher has gone onto his own company.
I would have to think the product would still be pretty good. The owner of the company is also the owner of "studio Projects", and their mics are sweet.
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