Progressive deathcore? wtf do I call this?

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http://soundcloud.com/fuhugwagads/clockwork-unmastered

and how does it sound? I seem to have misplaced my $500 monitors[that never existed] so I don't quite get that neutral sound. I'm still learning how and where to use compression, eq's etc. So any guidance would be very helpful. Also critique my composition please, does it flow well?

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Since: Jan 30, 2011


Oct 18, 2011 02:41 am

Good one! I dig. However, you want a critique. So here it is...

There's not really any low end to speak of that might be due to your current monitor setup (which is something I'm currently working on too now that I got a new set of monitors). The mix overall sounds kinda smashed together (again, something I'm working on) not a lot of separation. Use eq to cut out frequencies that other instruments are using. A specific example I can hear in this mix is the kick/bass. The kick should come thru with some high end clicking and some ball-smashing low end. The bass should fill in the gaps with some high-ish mids and some loooow low end. The bass sounds like its eating up the kick's low end. Boost around 50hz on the kick and cut whatever you boosted from the bass. Then boost 150-200hz on the bass and cut that from the kick. Gives the kick and bass good separation and clarity.

Also, the snare sounds a bit over compressed. I like a good tight snare as much as the next guy but all I hear in this mix is a crack, no body. As I remember from your last post, you're using EZdrummer right? DFH if I'm not mistaken...? That kit is very tight to begin with, so maybe boost some lowish mids to give more body to the snare.

Also, the bass could use some clarity. Somewhere around 2k-5k usually clears things up. But like I mentioned earlier, cutting frequencies can dramatically clear things up more than boosting.


Positive criticism time! I really like your guitar tone. Keep it the way it is. And you write really sick songs! Its not just a riff repeated for 3 min, its a full on song. And the rumbley fade in at 2:20ish sounds rad! If you feel so inclined, I'd love to give this song a mix of my own. Perhaps upload the individual tracks to megaupload or some other free file hosting site and I'll see what I can crank out. Feel free to email me at mikesavinski@gmail.com

Or not, its up to you :P

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Since: Apr 10, 2009


Oct 18, 2011 10:01 pm

Thanks, I'd love to see what this can become with someone who actually knows what they're doing. I actually finally switched to superior drummer after a dual core and ram upgrade. I was using a more neutral preset though and then switched it to a different one for that upload. I think the first one I used sounds better though so I'll switch to to that..

How should I go about dividing and uploading the individual tracks? should I pair the guitar tracks? How should I divide up superior drummer or should I? All the lead together? I had slight eqing and compression on the bass but took it off. I left the eqing and compression on the guitars though, unless you wanna put your spin on it. Let me know.

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Since: Jan 30, 2011


Oct 19, 2011 02:25 am

I usually prefer to work with the tracks as raw as possible. For example, if you used an amp sim, upload them direct in and I'll put one of my own amp sims on there. But if you reeeeally like your guitar tone or bass tone or whatever, its up to you. For drums, just export the midi file. I have superior drummer with the DFH, Avatar kit, and the Metal Foundry.

I guess mostly the bass and the drums are things I could work on. I really do like the guitar. Maybe just leave that the way it is. Exporting them as 1 stereo track is fine. I'm excited to get a crack at this song. :)

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Oct 19, 2011 02:31 am

I loved Manipulate too. I'd like to have a crack at that one too if I may. If not that's cool. I just love mixing, I like to get more experience and practice wherever I can I can.

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Oct 19, 2011 04:29 pm

I just sent you clockwork raw, Manipulate is on another computer. But when your ready for it just lemme know.

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Oct 22, 2011 12:07 am

http://soundcloud.com/quickxkid/clockwork

Here dude, just finished my mix. Again, I really love the song. Totally tough. Keep up the good work.

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