Problems with using M-Audio Delta 44 with headphones
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Posted on Jul 21, 2008 11:37 am
Il_Rata
Member Since: Jul 21, 2008
I have difficulties with the setup of my soundcard. I'm playing guitar through a Line 6 POD 2.0. It's outputs goes into Input 1 and Input 2 of the soundcard. My headphones are connected to Output 1 of the soundcard. I understand that I can only get one signal through one output (L or R) but how am I able to hear a stereo signal through the headphones? And I'm only able to hear on the left side of my headphones, no matter how it's connected (I tried ouput 2 and it is still the same). Normally I should then hear only on the right side right?
I'm very confused about this. All I wanna do is play that guitar and make some recordings.
Greets
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BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Jul 21, 2008 11:38 am The outputs on the 44 are line level. You cannot use your headphones directly out of the outputs. You need a headphone amp connected... or... plug your heaphones into the POD.
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Jul 21, 2008 12:53 pm Yeah, you may actually blow you output using it without a headphone amp, like that .
Jul 22, 2008 05:57 am I read in the manual that a digital audio mixer is built into the Delta 44 so I thought I could use it as such. I didn't know that I could blow the ouputs that way, so thanks for the advice!
I could obvisouly use the headphone jack on my POD but I need to listen to the backing track while I record my playing. Initially I wanted to do everything via the soundcard.
I guess the headphone amp is the best solution? I'm sorry if I sound like a total noob (which I am btw) but I don't have a clue what that is. I will google it up this afternoon... Is it gonna be expensive? Which models can you recommend?
Some other guy I asked on youtube (who has the same soundcard) told me to buy a Y adapter that goes into the ouput 1 and 2. That way I would get a stereo signal, but I won't do that now.
Keith WarrenMans reach exceeds his graspMember
Since: Oct 23, 2007
Jul 22, 2008 06:39 am Your most cost concious bet? Something like this: www.zzounds.com.../item--BEHHA400
I know you don't need 4 channels of output probably, but it is what it is.
Jul 22, 2008 08:45 am Yesterday I took 2 headphones, let's call them A and B. A was plugged into Output 1, all I could hear was the left side. B was plugged into Output 2, all I could hear was the right side. So far so good. Then I reversed them, A into Output 2, B into Output 1. Logically, I should hear the right side on A, left side on B, but that wasn't the case! I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND! How is that possible? Will everything be ok if I buy a headphone amplifier and then connect its two mono signals to my Y-adapter which goes then to my headphones? Will I hear both L and R?
HuePinnipedal Czar (: 3= Member
Since: Apr 11, 2004
Jul 22, 2008 09:20 am Quote:
Some other guy I asked on youtube (who has the same soundcard) told me to buy a Y adapter that goes into the ouput 1 and 2. That way I would get a stereo signal, but I won't do that now.
[quote] Buy the Y adapter and plug it into a headphone amp like this one and you'll be good to go like a Taco Bell Burrito.
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Delta Outs 1&2-> Headphone Amp In L&R-> Headphones-> Burrito !
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jul 22, 2008 08:39 pm Yep, those outputs on the Delta are LINE LEVEL OUTPUTS and they will not power a headphone, you will blow up the channels.
You are actually causing and internal short by connecting the 2 channels together with the Y adapter.
You need to get a headphone amp and do as Hue has stated.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jul 23, 2008 08:01 am From the Behringer HA400 page:
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Type: 1/4 in. TRS connector, stereo
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So you would need an adapter cable, Y type, with 2 TS mono 1/4" jacks on one end, and 1 TRS 1/4" stereo jack on the other end.
Some headphone amps will take stereo audio on 2 jacks (L & R) so you don't have to adapter down to 1 TRS jack. Research will find them for you.
Although you can drive headphones with line level, it is not advised. The amount of power is not in the same range as what headphones want to see. This is where you can get into driving components into problems, and frying something out.
Just like you wouldn't want to use a monkey wrench as a hammer when building a house, don't use line level to drive headphones when building your studio. Getting a HP amp will make life smoother and easier for you in the future, plus won't jeopardize your gear.
also, the 44 outputs are sending output signal 1 per jack. So there's L on one jack, and R on the other jack. Stereo signal has 2 signals on one jack. That's a TRS connection. The mono connection is TS.
TRS = Tip, Ring, Sleeve (which can be L, R, Ground)
TS = Tip, Sleeve (which is L(mono), Ground)
TRS can also be a balanced connection, but I won't go into that here.
Jul 24, 2008 11:41 am www.musicstore.de/is-bin/...qIAAAEbjCYb6gY9
Is this cable ok for my needs? I thought about getting the Behringer HA400 headphone amp and two of these cables. One for my headphones and the second to connect a pair of computer speakers. I mainly play through headphones but occasionally I want to play through some speakers.
Jul 24, 2008 11:50 am Quote:
"Some headphone amps will take stereo audio on 2 jacks (L & R) so you don't have to adapter down to 1 TRS jack. Research will find them for you."
www.zzounds.com/item--PRSHP4
Are you talking about a HA like this? The description says sth about "Mono or stereo operation", does that mean I don't need the Y-adapter?
NBrunkMember
Since: Sep 30, 2008
Dec 06, 2009 05:42 pm I have a similar question.
I'm hoping to record bass/mic and need a headphone amplifier and a preamp for the bass/mic. Is there a unit that would function as both?
Just to make sure: the y-adapter between the headphone amplifier and the 2 mono outs of the sound card won't cause the card to fry, will it?
Doesn't seem like it would, just thought I'd ask da pros :).
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Dec 07, 2009 05:34 pm Using a Y adapter is probably not the best solution when feeding the outputs of the Delta to something else. It is best to find headphone amplifier that will have separate left and right inputs.
I answered you other question's in the other thread as well.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Dec 07, 2009 11:36 pm Quote:
I'm hoping to record bass/mic and need a headphone amplifier and a preamp for the bass/mic. Is there a unit that would function as both?
Most interfaces have some sort of headphone output on them. The UX2 comes to mind right away:
www.zzounds.com.../item--LINPSUX2
2 preamp inputs with phantom power, or INST inputs, for BASS or Git, whatever. Then there's a headphone output on the device on front.