Nov 08, 2007 09:11 am Is the bleed in the other tracks or just in the kick track? If it is just the kick track then you have to adjust the "blend" setting in Drumagog so that it is 100%.
Drumagog/crappy drum tracks
Posted on Nov 08, 2007 08:39 am
Aenima7988
Member Since: Apr 10, 2006
i downloaded drumagog demo to fix a kick track in one of the songs i'm working on. it's alright, it sounded fake at first, but with EQ it sounds much better. The problem is, the real kick is still bleeding through into the other tracks, so it sounds like mush unless i boost the drumagog kick so that it's way too loud. Any ideas?
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Nov 08, 2007 09:11 am Is the bleed in the other tracks or just in the kick track? If it is just the kick track then you have to adjust the "blend" setting in Drumagog so that it is 100%.
Nov 08, 2007 09:41 am Can't you EQ the kick out of the other tracks?
I'm assuming you have kick drum in the snare track, for instance. Surgical EQ should do the trick.
Parametrick EQ with pretty small Q.
Nov 08, 2007 11:52 am I am unsure how drumagog can sound fake as they are actual samples of real drums (except the midi stuff of course). Some do sound heavily processed (not sure what's in the demo) but they cut through the mix nicely when everything else is said and done.
You can try blending more or less drumagog or possibly adjusting the pitch of the GOG'd track, the pitch is very important (if not 100% blended) to make it sound like one drum vs. two drums hitting at the same time.
So yeah, what mics did the kick bleed into?
Nov 08, 2007 07:27 pm Tripps, good to wee you around.
As for the Drumagog thing. Even the demo has some good sounding kick drums in it. I am with the others on wondering where the other kick is bleeding from.
Nov 08, 2007 11:16 pm it's a demo so maybe it's just the demo sound that sucks. I replaced the kick track with drumagog. The bleed is in the other tracks. each track has a diff sounding crappy kick (since they're all eqed differently). i don't know if i can EQ it out, because parts of the kick are probably in each octave. even if i take out all the bass (which could hurt the other tracks) EQ then there's still the smack of the beater, ykno? i guess i'll have to tweak it
Nov 09, 2007 09:01 am Can you DG each track? replace the snare track with a snare sample, replace the cymbal track with cymbal sample, etc for each track?
At great personal peril, I bring up some of the tasks in Reaper. There's a tutorial (video) on the reaper site that shows how to take a set of drum tracks, and using an FFT analyzer, catching the higher signal of a track, and replace it with a sample.
Basically the same as DG, but not quite so refined, and bell & whistles. I've done it (the tutorial) and it works a treat.
This could be done for any number of tracks you have, providing your PC can handle doing a bunch at once. You would just need to get samples that you like. ALso, in reaper, you can just send the output of the played sample to your output, so you don't hear the actual original track, if you don't want. Just use it to trigger your sample sound.
www.cockos.com/wiki/index..._-_Using_ReaFIR
here's the video, it's pretty slick.
Nov 09, 2007 09:55 am You might want to try some gating to keep the kick out of the other mics? What was your mic setup. Did you have mostly close mic'd drums? If so, ya, try some gating as well.
Nov 09, 2007 12:21 pm Honestly, my mics all pick up a little of everything, but I've never had them pick up so much kick that the actual Kick track is drowned out by them. I'm thinking you may want to look at your mic setup and try to eliminate some of that bleeding/leaking.
And thanks Noize, it's good to wee around :)
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