Looking for the RIGHT piece of recording equipment

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Member Since: Mar 01, 2005

Hello. I am looking for a piece of recording equipment.. I was looking at the Korg PXR4 and it's almost what I need, except I want it to have a pre-amp'd mic input and have the ability to record my piano and vocals simultaneously (to separate tracks in the unit that i can then add effects to). Would also be nice that I could have the effects process 'on the fly' so that while I'm playing, the reverb, etc, are already acting on the appropriate tracks.

Is there anything like this?
dep

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Time Waster
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Since: Jan 12, 2006


Mar 30, 2006 05:39 pm

Your piano is what? Acoustic? Digital? a Synth?
You want outboard effects or built-in?
Do you already have a microphone?
Price range?

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Since: Mar 01, 2005


Mar 30, 2006 05:42 pm

Thank you for the reply. It's a digital piano (Yamaha P60)... Built-in effects would be preferred right now. I have a condenser mic (MXL-500). Price range is under $400..

I came across this one:
www.musiciansfriend.com/p...ear?sku=241107X

Any other recommendations?

Sorry my initial post wasn't very detailed.

dep

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Since: Mar 01, 2005


Mar 30, 2006 05:43 pm

It'd be nice to be able to throw on headphones and listen to what i'm playing, the effects on the piano and mic all ready so I can record and then tweak the effects as needed.

Time Waster
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Since: Jan 12, 2006


Mar 30, 2006 06:29 pm

You'll need phantom power for the condenser mic. That Tascam only records 2 tracks at a time. It has phantom power though. I don't like Tascam products.

You might need to up your budget. Recording stereo piano and a mono vocal uses 3 tracks. Most of the lower cost units will record 2 tracks simultaneously. Finding one that does 3 or 4 ups the price.

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Since: Mar 01, 2005


Mar 30, 2006 06:57 pm

ok, if i were able to up my budget, do you have any products in particular that i might like?

dep

Time Waster
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Since: Jan 12, 2006


Mar 30, 2006 07:06 pm

Someone will soon bring a wealth of information into this thread. We've sorted out your needs pretty well so far. There are others who most likely will have the info you need and they will start showing up in the evening... I'll do some more checking...

Time Waster
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Since: Jan 12, 2006


Mar 30, 2006 07:23 pm

There's a new item, Korg D888, that does 8 tracks and will record on all tracks. I've looked for 3 or 4 track simultaneous recording and I keep finding 12 to 20 track machines. The Korg D888 will be about $700 at discount houses. Says available May 2006. It's probably overkill for your use though... It has alot of nice features.

Found a listing:
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/D888/

But no reviews yet...

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Mar 30, 2006 08:00 pm

Thank you for that one. any others are appreciated! :)

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Mar 30, 2006 08:07 pm

Have any experience with Fostex products?

www.musiciansfriend.com/p...ders?sku=240341

Time Waster
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Since: Jan 12, 2006


Mar 30, 2006 08:46 pm

I forgot to mention, I saw that unit and didn't mention it because of some reviewer's negative statements. There were positive ones too (and plenty of them), but I worry about the harmonic distortion and file system problems mentioned below. Fostex could have fixed this problem by now, for all I know. Fostex are usually regarded pretty good.

BTW, zzounds has it for $399.95 www.zzounds.com...item--FOSMR8HD+

Reviewer comments excerpted from:
www.zzounds.com...view--FOSMR8HD+

The problem is with the file system, which kept crashing.

Working around the unit's limitations makes you think "Ebay this puppy"

I was puzzled as to why my recordings made had a "ringing sensation" in the playback. Recording sine wave sweeps at various peak levels showed a surprising level of harmonic distortion at channel input levels above -12dB on the Fostex meters (All channels on my unit have the same problem). A frequency analysis under a sound editor shows the harmonic distortion. The result is that I have to boost my recordings by 12 to 15dB dB in my PC sound editor and the resulting S/N ratio drops to 88dB at best! (i.e fed line levels from an external mixer) Also a recording made of idle channel noise (trim controls set to minimum gain) show spot noise frequencies at 2KHz and 4kHz, the noise floor is about -102dB (but only yields a -88dB S/N ratio because recording peaks must be kept under -12dB)


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Since: Mar 01, 2005


Mar 30, 2006 08:53 pm

Hmm. That is an interesting device. reading more about it. thanks!

Time Waster
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Since: Jan 12, 2006


Mar 30, 2006 09:29 pm

And those people could have received bad or early units. Thing is, most of these online retailers offer a 30 day satisfaction. Can always take advantage of that...

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Since: Mar 01, 2005


Mar 31, 2006 09:25 am

Excellent advice, the Fostex MR8HD could very well be the one! :)

dep

Czar of Midi
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Since: Apr 04, 2002


Mar 31, 2006 06:34 pm

dep, the unit DungBeatle pointed you to at zZounds is a good unit these days. I would say the users comments may be related to early bugs that were present but have been addressed. And some user error may have been the cause as well.

Anyway, I read a small piece on that unit, which I cannot find now. But it gave it a pretty fair review and rated it above average for dollar value as well.

It looks a though it would indeed fill your need very nicely for that tasks you wish to achive with it.

Noize

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Since: Mar 01, 2005


Mar 31, 2006 07:09 pm

Very cool. Thanks for your advice. thanks very much dungbeetle for all of your time.

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