Foam applications
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Posted on Jan 24, 2006 05:49 pm
Jason H.
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Member Since: May 28, 2004
Ok, this is probably the second time I have asked this and the 11,834th time on the forum...
Last summer I had a ***** of a time getting my foam to stay on the walls...
Failed Option 1: Velcro tape...didnt stick to the foam but stuck to the wall so good it took the paint with it...
Failed Option 2: Carpet tack centered in the tile tapped lightly into wall...It held the foam but it looked like "crap" after a while with all the corners hanging out
Failed Option 3: Spray adhesive...Worked fine till the humidity decided it didn't like the foam on the walls...
I have not tried the cardboard theory...Where you spray adhere it to the cardboard then tack the c/b up...
Any suggestions?
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Jan 24, 2006 05:59 pm In my previous studio I used the carbboard method and it worked OK. Next time I plan to build the same type of frame I did in this article www.homerecordingconnecti...story&id=50 and spraying the adhesive on the back panel which could be plywood or the thick, firm cardboard/tagboard type stuff.
BeerHunterwww.TheLondonProject.caMember
Since: Feb 07, 2005
Jan 24, 2006 06:59 pm Most important is the "type" of spray glue. I went through the pain of glueing them all on the wall just to have them all fall down after a couple of days because I used cheap spray glue. The ONLY spray adhesive that I found to work was 3M 777 Spray Adhesive. I sprayed only the foam side and then pressed them onto the wall. This was about 6 months ago and they are still holding. If you only spray the foam then it has the equivelant holding power of a post-it note. IOW's you can take them down without damage to the drywall or paint. If you want a permanent solution then you spray both the foam and the wall, allow a few minutes to get tacky and then press onto the wall.
zekthedeadcowEat Spam before it eats YOU!!!Member
Since: May 11, 2002
Jan 24, 2006 07:59 pm Mine are glued to cardboard which is nailed to the wall... ceilings is tacked with roofing nails.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 24, 2006 11:52 pm I am with BeerHunter. I have used the 3M stuff, but I found that the FoamTak spray adhesive from Auralex did the trick very nicely, leaving no residue when I had to move a few sheets. I simply sprayed only on the foam, let stand for about 1 or 2 minutes and then place on the wall or whatever surface firmly. Mine has been up for over 5 years now and still there. The pieces I moved were there for 3 years before moving and came down readily and as I said, left no stain or paint peeling. Excelant stuff.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jan 25, 2006 10:58 am I used a staple gun on the four corners. It tears the foam a teeny bit, so the foam fluffs out to full depth, but the staple still has some meat to hold to the wall.
I hope that made sense, the foam doesn't stay compressed under the staple all the way, only the back 1/4" or so, the rest of the foam can spring back to normal depth, so you can't see where they's any staples.
That said, I'll probably go with spray adhesive in the next foam project.
Jan 25, 2006 12:44 pm Has anyone tried hotglue? From my experience it sticks to most anything AND peels off of smooth surfaces pretty well. Temperture/condensation shouldn't bother it as well as I'm sure it'll adhere to the foam. I bet some globs on each corner of a piece of foam plus some globs in the middle will do the trick.
Just my two cents.
Jan 25, 2006 01:28 pm Guess where I work? a foam factory.Though I dont glue it, Ive seen it done a million times.Some of foam is glued to velcro so it can be fixed to machines that soak up water on cricket pitches.These have to be well stuck or they come back,rejected.The foam soaks up the glue leaving not much on the surface,so the trick is to glue and let dry a couple of times before final contact.Same goes for the velcro.Brushed on may be better than spray, cause spray glue is thinner.
Jan 25, 2006 01:34 pm Quote:
The foam soaks up the glue leaving not much on the surface,so the trick is to glue and let dry a couple of times before final contact.
Now THERE is a good idea...create a semi-solid surface for it before final stickin'...good shout.
cooloFrisco's Most UnderratedMember
Since: Jan 28, 2003
Jan 25, 2006 05:17 pm yeah, my friend just used a staple gun as well, and it looked pretty good.
Jan 25, 2006 05:52 pm i use 3M Super 77 at work and it's holdin' up pretty good, i've had to reapply on a few problem areas but now that i've read Hujambo's post, that really makes alotta sense to me...in my home setup, i use regular 'ole thumbtacks (the pushpin type) and have had little problems...hell i even have one on my ceiling...just one tack on each corner and one in the middle, and it works great.
peace
wyd
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 25, 2006 10:44 pm The 3M stuff and the Auralex spray dont need to have a solid base or be sprayed several times to form a base. They form their own nice layer that doesnt soak in and then simply stick to the wall. I have never seen either spray soak in to the Auralex foam.
Although I am guessing the less expensive foam which is much less dense could indeed act like a sponge and soak it up. In that case, if it soaks up the spray it probably wont be much good for acuostic treatment as it may not be dense enough to do much more then soak up high end signal. But for some that is enough to do the job.
bbbitterI'm back bitches!!!Member
Since: May 27, 2004
Jan 26, 2006 07:10 am I used Tubetak from Auralex two years ago and it's still up.
Jan 26, 2006 12:23 pm A mate of mine built his own studio,floating control room,drum booth and main band room.I supplied him with all the foam and rubber, and he used it well.Yes its better the more dense it is also you want it to look good (black grey blue).He made some handy movable panels out of plywood,stuck foam on em and put them around amps for more separation.Mainly I got the stuff for free cause loads of off cuts fell into my car,but as the blocks have to be trimmed and their skins remomoved you may be able to get some off cuts if you have a factory nearby.
While youre there ask if there's any glue to suit the foam.Good luck.
