Kristal - adding a backing track from CD
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Posted on Jan 10, 2006 10:19 am
deedub777
Member Since: Dec 21, 2005
Hi,
Not sure if I'm missing something but I took HRC advice and downloaded Kristal - looks great!.
My intention is to record clarinet over a backing track (which I have on CD); but how do I get kristal to read the CD (or an MP3 file from the PC for that matter.
I have scanned the manual but can't see anyway to do this. Any help appreciated.
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Jan 10, 2006 10:23 am You need a program to "rip" the CD tracks down to a wave file, or some other supported format.
Get a program like Goldwave www.goldwave.com (which is freely downloadable) which does it.
Any file type the Kristal supports you should be able to just import into a track.
Jan 10, 2006 10:29 am Thanks, I must still be missing something! I have many tracks ripped on to the PC and not manged to import them, I'll dig around the menus once more and see what I can find. Cheers.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Jan 10, 2006 11:36 am on each track in Kristal, there's a little icon of a folder. click on that and it'll allow you to browse your computer for audio files. I think that WAV is the only supported file type for Kristal, so make sure that you ripped into WAV format from the CD. Whichever file you select will be inserted into the track.
Jan 10, 2006 02:26 pm Good call, Tad...Evidently it costs money for some kind of licensing fee to include .mp3 support in your open source program. That's why a lot of the free ones (Kristal and Audacity included) don't natively work with .mp3s. (At least this is the way I understand it!)
Jim
Jan 10, 2006 02:28 pm yep, same reason HarBal doesn't support it. They don't wanna add the extra cost...there are ways around it, but it's a fuzzy gray line of legality...
Jan 11, 2006 09:06 am Found the little icon! Cheers. I have some software that I can convert my mp3s to wav, hit the icon, import, BINGO!
time to play.......
Jan 11, 2006 09:10 am Glad you found it! w00t!
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I think that WAV is the only supported file type for Kristal
Actually, according to the web site it supports WAVE, AIFF, FLAC, OGG Vorbis files.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Jan 11, 2006 11:31 am OK then let me rephrase:
WAV is the only file format supported by Kristal that I'd ever have laying around my hard drive
:-D
I know that FLAC is a more compact lossless format than WAV, and OGG is a supposedly "better" lossy format than .MP3. But what the heck is AIFF for? Its an ancient format isn't it? I just see that about every audio application is coded to accept AIFF as if it were a widely used standard format. But I've never ever actually seen a file in that format.
Jan 11, 2006 11:33 am I believe AIFF is much more popular on Crapintosh computers than Windows.
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WAV is the only file format supported by Kristal that I'd ever have laying around my hard drive
Now THAT I'd agree with...I use wav and mp3, thats about it...and mp3 only when I HAVE to.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 11, 2006 06:57 pm Audio Interchange File Format. And yep, its an old Apple based format. My old SampleCell card used to import that as well as wave. That was were I first learned of it.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 11, 2006 10:35 pm Tad, have you tried using FLAC at all? I have been starting to use it more now and am really liking the way it works. The FLAC front end is a great tool. I can compress and uncompress from and to wave without any apperant degrading of the audio. I have a couple guys I do restoration for that are now sending files compressed to FLAC to save themselves mailing CD's all the time. I'm actually thinking of compressing my sample libraries to FLAC and looking for a pluggin that might work for when I am scanning through them in Sonar or what have you which will play them in their compressed format. Winamp and several others will do it but I want to find a way to do it natively in Sonar or P5. It would save me many gigs of space in the end.
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Jan 12, 2006 12:16 pm Yeah I like the idea of FLAC. When I traded live shows via bittorrent that's usually the format used. Its just a pain to convert and the size savings didn't seem to be big enough to warrant all of the extra conversion. Of course I was going to mp3 via an intermediate wav file, so those 2 conversions were painfully slow when combined.
Plus my computer is an old man and it takes him too much time to do the conversion to and from the newfangled format. And he doesn't like new things :)
Jan 12, 2006 12:20 pm Thats just about enough FLAC outta you, boy!
come on, somebody had to say it...
TadpuiI am not a crook's headMember
Since: Mar 14, 2003
Jan 12, 2006 03:17 pm hehehe, I'll put on my FLAC jacket and shut up now...
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 12, 2006 08:52 pm Well I know I am going to get some FLAC for this but I must add.
Using the Flac front end I got from SourceForge flac.sourceforge.net/ even my old PIII 667 didnt doesnt do too badly. I know the savings isnt much doing the mp3 thing but it was much greater going from wav to FLAC. And I like the fact I can convert anything to FLAC and back agian. They have come a long way since the first time I looked at it.
Funny you should mention live shows and bit torrent. That is what actually got me to use it again. A buddy of mine that I attended the very first Frank Zappa show in Minneapolis with found a recording of the show that was in FLAC and I desperately wanted it so I grabbed the Flac Frontend to convert it and was surprised how fast it really was. by the way, my main reason for wanting that show was I was front row center stage for it and wanted to see if I could be heard yelling something about a pengiun in bondage. :-)
bangbangmofoThecalmlittlecenteroftheuniverseMember
Since: Dec 04, 2005
Jan 13, 2006 12:23 am What in God's name causes people to pun?
*KABLOW!*
Excuse me while i go take a flac...
p.s. what you did to that penguin was just sick. sick man.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 13, 2006 06:31 pm Its the name of a song by Frank Zappa dude.
