I need to know common settings for cakewalk

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Member Since: May 16, 2002

if anyone can tell me common setting for vocals on cakewalk for the eq i'd appreciate it

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


May 16, 2002 02:16 pm

What type of voice, man, women, weak, strong, pop, rock? There is no such thing as "common settings" it totally depends on the voice you are recording.

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Since: Apr 05, 2002


May 16, 2002 03:34 pm

dB is right, it really does all depend. The only thing I can say is that I believe you can download something from cakewalk that gives you a bunch of presets to the eq's. Also, there is some really good articles here that will help you define what it is that you are looking for. Sometimes just figuring out the language you need to ask a question is what is most difficult. Terms like shimmering or brilliance can help get the idea across when you are getting into it. The only other piece of advice I can offer you is that your settings for eq on vocals will depend partly on the other eq settings you have for the instruments. What I "try" to do is have each instrument have its own little eq nitch so that the instruments have their own frequency space so that they do not sound muddy or indistinguishable. Give that a try and check out some of the articles that are here. They are great sources of knowledge that I know I refer back to from time to time. You just never know.
Marc (da Sharc)

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Since: May 16, 2002


May 16, 2002 09:15 pm

well i have a beat that i was sent in wave format on there and the beat has already been eq'ed by the guy that made it i just want to make my voice fit the beat........it's a rap song and i'm a guy.......should my voice be louder than the beat or softer?

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Since: Apr 05, 2002


May 16, 2002 09:37 pm

That again depends on lots of things. Generally in rap I find that the voice is slightly buried. If this is truly "rap" and not an R&B song, then usually the people are not singing as much as they are "rapping." Its hard to say with your voice, how high or low it is, whcih frequencies to cut or slightly boost. I can say as a generakl rule of thumb that its better to cut than to boost. Being rap if its got a really strong low end, bas beat adn all, you may want to start there and cut some of the lower frequencies from your voice so there is not as much "muddiness" and boost around the mid range. Again, common rap has a strong low end and a hi-hat type sound keeping the time. Its a start but only you can really determine what sounds good. What I would suggest is make a few copies with different frequencies cut and boosted then burn some coipies to a cd, and play them in several different stereo's to hear what comes through the best. I play all my stuff through about 3 different stereo's, my car stereo being the true test for me since it has the best all around response with a sub. But, you might want to play it on a cheap stereo too to make sure that whichever version sounds corect to you sounds good on that as well. Its hell, I know I have been living it for several months now. Good luck.
Marc (da Sharc)

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


May 17, 2002 07:19 am

Well whether your voice should be softer or louder than the beat is kind of a preference thing, nobody can dictate that for you, but if you are a strong rapper, I would definately recommend a very heavy compression to at least keep the rap consistant. Once you get that on tape at a good consistant level you can then try turning it up and down and seeing what you like.

It seems to me that women rappers are generally buried under the beat where men rappers are usually over the beat, but then, I am not ahuge rap guy, that is just what I have noticed in the l;ittle rap I have listened to.

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Since: May 16, 2002


May 18, 2002 07:30 pm

yea msharc......u r on track of what i'm talking about.......ok exactly what r the names of he frequencies in the parametric equalizer that i should cut to get the muddiness out? and now i'm recording in my closet and it comes out sounding like i'm recordingin a box.....how doi get rid of that sound......i did it to get ridof the echo i go from my room ndnow i'm building a booth with carpet on the walls to record in........what do i boost or cut or whatever to not sound like i'm in a box and not sound muddy? like name them for me please....my voice is higher pitched guy like.......and what is a heavy compression? i did a thing called equal loudness on the para eq but it made it sound real muddy........help please thanks.........

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


May 19, 2002 07:41 am

I consider heavy compression about 8 to 1 ratio or higher...with a threshhold starting a couple db under peak.

As for EQ, read this: www.dbmasters.net/hrc/new...story&id=38 it mentions exactly what you are talking about. The information is already on this website, just search for it...

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