Another one for you all
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Posted on Aug 28, 2005 05:23 pm
colonel_sanders
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Member Since: Aug 17, 2004
Righto guys and girls, I've got another song up in my profile
homerecordingconnection.c...sic&id=1661
Its "I Dont Know Your Name" by our favourite band "Hype" from christchurch, New Zealand.
The vocals were recorded with an SM 58 (The days before I knew anything), but thanks to WYD'd tip on airing out the vocals at about 8-16kHz. and cutting the low mids, they sound aight.
I tried to make it sound like californication by the chilli peppers at the end in the solo. I dont really know why, and it didnt really work :)
This was very much a "Fix in the Mix" operation as the original mix (1 long year ago) sounded shocking.
Comments would be very much appreciated!
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jmailjimmie neutronMember
Since: Feb 14, 2005
Aug 28, 2005 05:53 pm Kuhl, man; like it. The drums sound very clean on the intro, especially considering it's a "flash" song... Cool guitar sound, & inventive rhythm riffs...
Is the "fold-down" (or whatever) to mono towards the end (3:32-33) purposeful, or just the sound of the effect? It seems to pull everything else in with it (perhaps it's the left guitar getting centered?), which is different (not bad, just different). It seems to either interfere with the hat, or distort it (is there some "bleed" there, or where the drums done separate?) Have you tried to double the guitar solo track (3:32-33 start), with a "primary" left (not "hard" panned, tho), say, and "secondary", right, lower in volume and delayed slightly? Also, that little octave guitar lick at 4:23 & on needs to be brought in sooner.
The vocals are back in the mix on the chorus, which I'm supposing is purposeful (is that you singing?). The background vox are even lower and to the right... too easy to miss. Bring 'em all up a bit. I can't tell that you've done the wyd "witch-doctoring" trick... If the vocalist smokes, tell him to stop. Get some wind exercises going!
All in all, I like it allot! Way better than what our band used to do ('course, that ain't no *real* comparison).
Aug 28, 2005 06:17 pm Yea, the fold down at the solo is on purpose. I did it just to be a bit different and make it all Mono like. The left guitar stops, the centered guitar keeps playing, and the right guitar gets centered and becomes a solo. Then it fades out to stereo. Does it get your attention? I might try the slightly delayed right and left trick though. Cheers J mail.
All the instruments were recorded live and there was a bit of bleed not much though. There were two guitar tracks that were overdubbed.
Its not me singing! I have no part in the band but recording/mixing. And no he doesnt smoke. I placed the backing vocals a bit randomly in the stereo field to try and'jog' people to listen when they come in. Did it work? But your suggestion makes me think it should be a bit more mathmatical....
Cheers man
jmailjimmie neutronMember
Since: Feb 14, 2005
Aug 28, 2005 10:06 pm The b-vox placement does work, just needs to be up a bit (in my opinion) (along with the lead voc in the chorus). The guitar changes definitely do get your attention. Do you get any input on the arrangement?
Aug 29, 2005 12:59 am Ok, I'll turn them vocals a bit. Cheers. Glad the change got your attention. I'm trying to develop a "WTF" yet "that was cool" style of mixing.
I cant remember if I had any input or not in the recording stages. Maybe a slight influence on the bands performance, but nothing major. However, once it is in the digital realm, I wil have my way with it as I please.
jmailjimmie neutronMember
Since: Feb 14, 2005
Aug 29, 2005 09:15 am I won't be able to describe it too well, but what I'm hearing, in combination with your mix, is a "break" right before that solo starting at 3:32. There'd be a triplet-type or 16th-note "run" (closer to arpeggios), with the drums, of like 3 beats (10 or 13 notes), then a last "smack" where the transition happens with a phase type swoosh on the lead-in guitar note, and the solo starts... And that lick at 4:23 comes in sooner, as kind of a "theme", that the rest of the solo is built on. Of course, that's a whole new recording, which we all know is a bear...
Aug 31, 2005 09:38 pm Ok, sounds cool. I'll talk to the band about it. This recording was done about a year ago though. Just dug it up.
Cheers
9 plays, one review. Any one else got an opinion?
PeteMember
Since: Sep 02, 2005
Sep 03, 2005 06:06 pm Sound pretty good to me. Good work.
Pete
Sep 04, 2005 12:58 am Cheers pete, thanks for the input
olddogMember
Since: Jul 02, 2003
Sep 04, 2005 01:53 pm To me this is probably the best song the band has done, I really like this one. The others while good in their own right just weren't my cup of tea. A few rough spots in the vocals but otherwise great performance by the band and great job on the mix CS.
Dan
Sep 05, 2005 02:18 am Thanks old dog!
I'll make sure to pass the compliments on to the band.
