hey, i just had a question....

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Member Since: Jul 18, 2005

the main difference between the delta 44 and 66-no preamp on the 44 right? but if i got a delta 44 and a yahmaha 12/4 mixer that would be all the preamp i would need correct?
what exactly would plug into the delta interface? the 12/4 mixer accomodates microphone cables (as far as i understand) so would you plug the mics through the mixer, then into the delta, then into the computor?

i'm sorry if i sound like an idiot, i just kind of want to know

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Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 18, 2005 10:09 pm

welcome to HRC.

neither has a preamp. The 66 has S/PDIF digital input/output, the 44 does not, thats the only difference.

In that situation I would plug the two sub outs into two of the Delta inputs, two outputs of the delta back into the mixer and route them out the main outputs of the mixer.

Member
Since: Jul 18, 2005


Jul 18, 2005 10:13 pm

is the sony/phillips digital interface really nessacary? i hate to be a bother but could you tell me what having a S/PDIF really means?

also, i'm looking at these yahmaha MG mixers? they include preamps correct?

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 18, 2005 10:18 pm

most all mixers with microphone ins have preamps.

S/PDIF isn't necessary if you don't have gear that uses S/PDIF I/O...such as DAT machine and other digital gear...since you are asking I presume you don't use any S/PDIF gear.

Member
Since: Jul 18, 2005


Jul 18, 2005 10:30 pm

well, to be honest i'm trying to build a digital recording studio, but i have no experiance recording except for on a studio-in-a-box system.

protools/cakewalk doesn't count as DAT correct?

i really am not to big into technology so i'm sort of slow around computors. really i'm just looking to record up to four things at once (for drum kits) it's my understanding (so far) that with protools/cakewalk, some sort of Delta interface, a mixer with mic inputs and microphones, i can record sufficiantly...am i wrong in thinking this?

edit0r
Member
Since: Aug 17, 2004


Jul 19, 2005 12:49 am

Nope, they arent DAT im afraid :(

But you are right in your second opinion
(Although 8 tracks is nice to start with :)

All you need is a sound card, a software seqeuncer (there are good free ones out there! I dont know the names but some one will chime in) a Mixer (preamps for your mics) and microphones.

Good luck!

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 19, 2005 06:22 am

Yes, you are on the right track, the Delta 44 is good for recording 4 inputs at once into different tracks. To do so your mixer would need to have 4 sub-outs such as service.bfast.com/bfast/c...mp;bfmtype=gear does.

DAT is a digital audio tape, it uses the S/PDIF interface which looks like typical home stereo RCA ins and outs. ProTools and Cakewalk are not. S/PDIF isn't that common for computer based home studios any more as a lot of gear is starting to use USB for it's digital interface.

Prince CZAR-ming
Member
Since: Apr 08, 2004


Jul 19, 2005 09:19 am

I have (had) a yamaha 16/4 which I liked very much. Can't push the channels very hard, but it was very clear.

You can use channel inserts as outputs to a recording sound card, which the MG series has. Ends up cheaper than a mixer with more sub-outs.

Some drum machines, or guitar processors have spdif out, which may sound better if you stay in the digital realm to record. Certainly not a necessity though.

Administrator
Since: Apr 03, 2002


Jul 19, 2005 10:04 am

ah, good call pjk, I always forget about that insert/output trick, as I never need to use it being a one-man band and using Battery 2 for drums.

Member
Since: Aug 24, 2004


Jul 20, 2005 10:51 am

Hi Altoid!

I use a delta 44 myself,
and I can second pjk's praise of the ole "insert as a direct-out" trick

if you can get your hands on a mixer with channel inserts, an insert-until-the-first-click with a 1/4" TS cable gives you as many direct outs as the mixer has inserts.
the added bonus is you can then use the mixer's main bus or control room bus to make a monitor mix while you record...
the Delta Software offers great monitor routing flexibility "in the box", but the mixer makes life easier!

good luck with your purchase!
keep us posted

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