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wow! i just googled "drum recording and found this site" it's got a drum recording forum!!!
oh i wasn't beein' cynical there...i'm excited about what i found.
hehe
Snare / Drum sounds
Posted on Jun 02, 2005 11:03 am
noah56
Never luster
Member Since: Feb 08, 2005
At this point, I love the way my kick and cymbals are sounding. My snare and toms are rather lacky. I know most of it probably has to do with being in tune (I am still a beginner, not great at tuning), but I still am getting a very bouncy tom sound...which I am capable of mixing, but I want a more dry flat but crisp sound from the toms. I.E. Cream / Get Up Kids.
The snare, I can get a pretty decent sound, I am lacking a few boom mic stands, but I could surely enjoy being able to get a very large sound, med-short attack, med-long release type sound. Cursive's Ugly Organ represents the snare I want... if anyone has any ideas... I am currently rocking a 4 mic setup, due to it's simplicity, and because I only have three boom stands (kick, OHs). Any suggestions? Compressor settings?
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Jun 02, 2005 11:07 am www.audiocourses.com/forum-95.html
wow! i just googled "drum recording and found this site" it's got a drum recording forum!!!
oh i wasn't beein' cynical there...i'm excited about what i found.
hehe
Jun 02, 2005 12:26 pm Tune them and then try some light padding to kill the ring, you should be able to do that by ear with a little patience.
Jun 02, 2005 12:27 pm Sorry, padding is the wrong word, that sounds like you stuff them, which of course you don't, i mean dampening the toms slightly with taped-on tissue or cloth, in a small flattish bundle.
Jun 02, 2005 12:54 pm our drummer hangs his wallet over the edge of the snare, so part of it is on the snare, while the other part is hanging over the side.
course you'd have to have 3 wallets =) "all right guys, give up yer wallets"
Jun 02, 2005 01:15 pm For a nice crisp sound on the toms and snares for that matter, and dry sound, invest in some nice coated heads. Evans puts out some nice ones. Also dont forget your bottom heads too because they can mean the difference between garbage cans and good sounding drums.
Jun 02, 2005 02:06 pm or even the old "paper skins"...I like them.
Jun 02, 2005 07:51 pm ya I have a huuuugee problem with my drummers snare sound, we use a 57 and it doesnt sound powerful enough after eqing and compressing it (cubase), anybody have any ideas what I can do?
Jun 02, 2005 08:05 pm TUNING TUNING TUNING!!! This is by far the most over looked part of recording drums. Make sure you replace your heads often (at least 4 times a year, because the different humidities of the seasons will make the heads sound bad). I like to use Remo Pinstipes, but Remo Coated Ambasaders (sp?) will work great in your situation. For actual tunning, try different things. I find that looser tuning on top gives a thug chug type of sound and tighter tunning give more clarity and tone. Good luck
Josh
Jun 02, 2005 08:10 pm Alex, I didnt see your post-I'd check if the EQ alone is what your problem is. If its the compression, I would try not compressing it. This is my guide for EQ
www.homerecordingconnecti...tory&id=390
Josh
Jun 02, 2005 08:13 pm THANKS Josh, I'll try using your method tommorow and see how it turns out
Jun 02, 2005 09:19 pm how about just using a trigger and replacing it with a good snare sample?
Jun 02, 2005 09:22 pm When tuning, does it matter if some lugs feel tighter than others? Sometimes when I turn them all equally some actually feel like they're cinched down all the way. Also, do acoustic guitar tuners work for the tuning drums, or is it better to go with a piano?
Jun 02, 2005 09:53 pm I think that its most important for the drum head to be in tune with itself than for it to be tuned to a particular pitch. I think that as long as you get a good "pop" out of the head, then just make sure that all of the head is at the same pitch near all of the lugs...move in a circle around the head, hitting near each lug and listening to the pitch. Adjust each lug as necessary until they're all at the same pitch.
Then when you factor in a second head, it goes right over my head...i think its a matter of preference whether you tune the heads at the same pitch or slightly different pitches.
Jun 03, 2005 06:03 pm Generally I tune the bottom head a little lower than the top. Yhis seems to give a fuller heartier sound. Having the same pitch i find tends to "ping" the sound rather than complete it Tune the drum with the opposit head deadned by your knee or pillow etc that always helps and when circling the drum for the sounding do it about 3-5cm (1 1/2 to 2 inches) to get the correct sound
But hey what do i know i'm just a drummer how can someone hitting things make it sound musical LOL
Jun 03, 2005 06:35 pm My drummer friend, (very experienced) keeps telling me to tune them to the song "Off To The Races". I'm not sure if anyone else does this as I don't know squat about drums but I do have to "try" and tune them myself from time to time.
Jun 04, 2005 03:53 am IMO Coz there are sooooo many different kits made out of different woods its impossible to get the same sound as a particular artist (of course you caan get near) and each drummer has his/her own sound (same ith guitars & amps etc) drum tuning is very individual and about feel as much as pitch - just get the tonality right for the particular drum wether tuned low or high. just my two (euro)centimes worth
Jun 04, 2005 04:39 am Alex Arthurs: Sounds like you might be overcompressing, using dynamic mics on snares (which provide a fairly narrow sound anyway) and then heavily compressing can reduce a snare to almost nothing dynamically, have you tried micing the shell, maybe with an SDC?
Jun 04, 2005 11:13 am Anyone heard of the group Big Wreak? they had this song called "Blown Wide Open" that has the softest yet thickest snare sound....liners said they put BB's in the bottom head.
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