Drum Mic Package?

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JR Productions
Member Since: Mar 03, 2005

Im pretty sure this topics already been discused, but I couldn't find the thread. I'm looking at getting a few more mics for my kit, most just for better control of EQ and stereo position. I already have a 57, two SDC overheads, and a D112, but that doesnt give me much control on the toms/hihat. The kit I'm lookin at is the Audix Fusion Series 6 pc (1 f12 mic BD mic, 3 f10 tom/snaredrum, 2 f15 overhead). Any thoughts, or other suggestions would be great.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Apr 17, 2005 09:28 am

there are a few drum packages on our microphone page www.homerecordingconnecti...st&cat_id=5

Lost for words with all to say.
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Since: Sep 12, 2003


Apr 17, 2005 09:46 am

I two sets of the Fusion Series. I love them! The overheads are great! You won't be disappointed in getting them.

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Since: May 27, 2004


Apr 18, 2005 04:18 am

I just got the Sennheiser E604 3 pack and like them alot. A little on the pricey side though.

Ultra Magnus
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Since: Nov 13, 2004


Apr 18, 2005 11:28 am

Doesn't really sound like you need a package if you're just needing tom mics and maybe an omni for ambience. How about a 421 or two for the toms and a 414 for ambience?

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Apr 18, 2005 11:31 am

i agree with Rigsby

i'd get some Sennheiser 421's (that IS the clip on tom ones right??)

also look into a 451 i bieleve??? it's a large diaphragm dynamic with a 5 way selector bass rolloff.

also a pzm might be fun

peace

wyd

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Apr 18, 2005 11:34 am

A package is nice as the microphones are more matched in sound and response (in theory) so the kit will, or could, sound more like a unified instrument. Using a plethora of mics of different makes and styles can sometimes lead to a mismatched recording...sometimes.

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Apr 18, 2005 11:38 am

*mexican accent*
"Hefe.....do you even knowww what a plethora ees?"
"could it beee, that once a-gaine El Guapo, you are taking your anger out on me"

three amigos

yeah that makes sense to me, on that note on the project i'm dooin', i used a Samson 7piece mic kit, and accented with mics that i already had.

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Since: Apr 03, 2002


Apr 18, 2005 11:40 am

often snare and kick mics are chosen individually, but using a wide array of mics for drums can sometimes be like monitoring during mixdown with two different speakers...

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Apr 18, 2005 11:50 am

tell me about it!!!! i used three clip on mics on the rack toms then used a large d dynamic on a floor tom, now it sounds like we overdubbed the floor tom!! lol

Ultra Magnus
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Since: Nov 13, 2004


Apr 18, 2005 11:59 am

I'd agree with the matching mics up to this point: Same OHs, possibly same tom mics (as eachother, not as OHs), especially the type of mic, don't use a condenser on one and a dynamic on another as you'll have a very open sound with the condenser and a very tight one with the dynamic, and if you have three toms, the first two i'd use the same mic as they're physically close to eachother and without using the same mic your bleed could sound wierd.

WYD, i don't know the 451, unless you're talking about the AKG, which is a fairly bright SDC, not bright as in C1000, more rounded than that, but still pretty bright. Is the 451 you're talking about a Senn?

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Apr 18, 2005 12:22 pm

ok i'm gettin' my mics mixed up

the LDD i was talkin' about is the 421

and for the life of me, i know i used clip on tom mics from sennheiser, but can't remember the model, i checked their site, and they're not up there either.....STRANGE!!!

*cue twilight zone music*

Ultra Magnus
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Since: Nov 13, 2004


Apr 18, 2005 01:13 pm

I know the 608 and 908 but they're more for live sax playing and such-like.

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Apr 18, 2005 01:19 pm

604!!! found it

www.samedaymusic.com/product--SENE604

excelent sounding tom mic for hard rock, combined with hydrolic heads!!

Ultra Magnus
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Since: Nov 13, 2004


Apr 18, 2005 01:32 pm

Ahhh...yeah, i've seen those but not used them. Hard rock eh? Ever used them in a lighter capacity like jazz?

Hold 'Em Czar
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Since: Dec 30, 2004


Apr 18, 2005 04:07 pm

nope but i would, these things sound better than a 57 on toms IMHO. they're alot less 'harsh' and give the toms a real musical tone. dosn't just sound like a drumkit, thing brings out the lows (proxemity effect, i'm guessing) so they sound like BIG drums hit with mallets.

JR Productions
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Since: Mar 03, 2005


Apr 18, 2005 04:23 pm

Thanks for all the replies. The reason I was going for the kit in the first place was just for better control of each individual cymbal/tom. So Instead of just two overheads picking up the crashes, ride and hihats ect...I want to get two more overheads (included in the Audix pack) so that I can mike specifically hihat, ride, crash, high tom, ect...and put them exactly where I want them in the stereo/frequency range. So although the 604s (which I have looked at before) look very tempting, I'll only be able to get 3 or so, which defeats the purpose of me getting the kind of control I want. Yet with the Audix pack I'll have better control, with less quality of course. Which brings me back to my original questian: I would get better placement, but would the mics sound so bad that it wouldn't really matter how well I EQ them or pan them?

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