Little one - Updated

> > > Little one - Updated

Posted on

A small pie will soon be eaten
Member Since: Aug 26, 2004

I posted a song a few weeks back and got some advice on re-doing the vocals and so forth! Well i've done that but i just can't seem to nail it! For some reason this thing is giving me grief :)

Anyway, here it is. This time it's gone through Ozone! Ive also added a B4 keyboard to it! could you let me know if it works or just just sticks out!

Comments are welcome!

Cheers

homerecordingconnection.com/m3u.php?id=478

[ Back to Top ]


Member
Since: Jul 02, 2003

Jan 13, 2005 01:36 am

Bleak, it's sounding pretty good. The vocals are as you say giving a bit of trouble in places. You have a good voice, suits the song well, just need to hit those few notes a little closer to be really good. One thing I've started doing after reading an article is killing the bass or lowering it as low as possible and still give you the feel of the song (if you need it) when doing your vocals. I think it's helped me quite a bit. I don't want to sound like I think it's bad, cause I don't, it's really just a few places that need a bit more work, you've got the voice so I'm sure you can nail it.

It's a really cool song, I like it alot. I think the keyboard is a good addition. Real nice sound to the instruments and a fine job of mixing. :)

Dan

A small pie will soon be eaten
Member
Since: Aug 26, 2004

Jan 13, 2005 02:42 am

Cheers Olddog, It should be a walk in the park but I just keep straying, I tried it with just the acoustic but still no joy!

Glad you like the B4 - I wasn’t sure at first but I’ll run with it I reckon.

As for the mixing, Db's article on 'Audible frequency spectrum' is invaluable!!! Changed everything for me (mixing wise)

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Jan 14, 2005 10:10 pm

Gotta agree with OD here, the tune is sounding real good. I like the addition of the B4 part, nice touch for sure. The only thing I am hearing onow that might need a tiny bit of work is the kick drum and bass seem to be meshing a bit here and there. And it seems to bury the guitar now and then. Only in little bits of the track though. Otherwise, the vocals are sounding better as well.

And the mix is coming along nicely for sure.

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
Member
Since: May 10, 2002

Jan 15, 2005 01:09 am

I for one think it's top.

It is so blessed tough to know what it really sounds like listening to an mp3. The only thing I hear is something between maybe 5K & 10K hz, but that is where the mp3 will push too. Excelent match of vocal 'tone' to song 'tone'. It is just comming through a hair 'crisp' in that upper end. Again probably the mp3 effect. It is detracting just a little from the natural grit in the voice. Nice 'seat' for the vocals by the way. Care to elaberate on how you mixed the vox and why?

A small pie will soon be eaten
Member
Since: Aug 26, 2004

Jan 15, 2005 04:26 am

Thanks for the kind words guys! I did notice the kick and the bass were 'melding' a touch but within Cubase they sound spot on so i'm not sure how to fix that one!

Walt - I'm Stoked you like but at the risk of sounding like a complete newbie - What is Vox?


A small pie will soon be eaten
Member
Since: Aug 26, 2004

Jan 15, 2005 05:04 am

Sorry to be a complete pain in the arse but I just re-mixed and re-uploaded! I've tightened the bottom end and lost a lot of the verb on the vocals.

And kicked the kick up just a kick.

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Jan 15, 2005 07:49 pm

Bleak Vox is short for vocals. I am gonna listen to the remix in a bit. I'll let ya know.

A small pie will soon be eaten
Member
Since: Aug 26, 2004

Jan 16, 2005 04:37 am

CHeers Noize - In that case Walt, in the other version i sat the vocasl at around 4kHz! I double tracked and had one track dry and the other with (too much) reverb and a cheeky bit of chorus!

As for why, well i'm really just testing and poking to see what sounds best. A 'suck it and see' kind of thing.

Is that what you were after?

Member
Since: Jul 02, 2003

Jan 16, 2005 11:38 am

Sounds really good Bleak. Did you do another take on the vocals? They sound better now. I really like the sound you have with the vocals. I've tried getting a similar sound but I guess my voice just isn't right for it.

Great song!

Dan

Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Jan 16, 2005 02:40 pm

Ya, Im with OD on your voice Bleak. It has a very prominant feel to it. It kind of reminds me of the first time I heard Leo Kottke sing.

A small pie will soon be eaten
Member
Since: Aug 26, 2004

Jan 16, 2005 07:00 pm

Thanks guys! No - i didn't re-do the vocals but did lose quite a bit of reverb on them. i also added a touch of compression. I have a hardware compressor and i'm always at odds wether to use both or not :)

I dont know who Leo Kottle is but i'm looking him up! hope he's ok :)

Thanks again guys!

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
Member
Since: May 10, 2002

Jan 18, 2005 10:33 pm

Bleak,

Sorry for not getting back for a bit. Cable modem took a dive. Back now I think. I think you already got the answers / input needed per above. Just thought I would let you know I wasn't ignoring you.

A small pie will soon be eaten
Member
Since: Aug 26, 2004

Jan 18, 2005 11:04 pm

Thanks Walt! Glad to hear your modem troubles are over :)

Frisco's Most Underrated
Member
Since: Jan 28, 2003

Jan 19, 2005 02:33 am

Bleak, I posted briefly in the compilation thread, but I really like this song. I had it on repeat for about 45 minutes last night. I think the mix sounds great. And I really like the lyrics and the way you sing them. I can just feel it! Really good.

A small pie will soon be eaten
Member
Since: Aug 26, 2004

Jan 19, 2005 04:57 am

Thanks Coolo! I'm stoked you had it on repeat for so long! means a lot. I cant even listen to it for that long :)

As for the mix - i finally figured out that mixing isn't just about making something louder than others :)

Member
Since: May 15, 2004

Jan 19, 2005 07:49 pm

wish I can sing like you Bleak

A small pie will soon be eaten
Member
Since: Aug 26, 2004

Jan 19, 2005 11:17 pm

Cheers Ciinx! It was suprisingly hard to sing. to low for me i think!


Czar of Midi
Administrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002

Jan 20, 2005 11:15 pm

Bleak, Leo is one of the great finger picking guitar players around. He didnt really sing at all untill about his 9th or 10th album. And it was a shock for people who had only heard him play. His voice is very prominant when blended with his style of guitar playing.

Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
Member
Since: May 10, 2002

Jan 20, 2005 11:43 pm

Bleak,

Just had to take another listen. The Vox definately have the 'grit' back in them. Don't know if it was a function of the verb or what. Nice balanced tone now. Real ear candy.

A small pie will soon be eaten
Member
Since: Aug 26, 2004

Jan 21, 2005 12:47 am

Cheers Walt! I think it was the verb -way to much in the first mix. i originally had some chorus as well but that did some strange things! i'll be dodging that one from now on :)

Noize i found a site about Leo - no tunes on it but i wil make the effort to find some.

> > > Little one - Updated

Related Forum Topics:


If you would like to participate in the forum discussions, feel free to register for your free membership.