2-10" or 1-15"?
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Posted on Dec 31, 2004 04:18 pm
kamikaze
Member Since: Sep 11, 2004
Hello!
I am going to be purchasing a Yorkville amp soon, and am stuck deciding between a 200W 2-10" amp
Link to 2-10" amp
or a 200W 1-15" amp.
Link to 15" amp
Everything else about these amps is the exact same.
I'm playing an Ibanez EDA-900 Ergodyne. It's a 4-string with magnetic and piezo pickups.
Which amp am I better off buying? At first i figured the 2-10", because the 2-10"s would be tighter because there are two seperate speakers doing the work. But then a 15" could give a nice warmth to a 4 string....so I'm really not sure.
Any advice?
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Dec 31, 2004 04:36 pm 10's every time...that last amp I used for live playing was the bomb, it was a combo unit with a 50 watts amp going to an 8" and a 100 watt amp going to a 15". If you can have one 15 and two 10's or smaller that would be best, but if it's a choice between all 15's or all 10's I would go with the 10's. 15's have no real definition on the upper end, so the sound lacks attack and sharpness and just has boom and thump. Boom and thump with no smack is lame.
Just my two cents.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Dec 31, 2004 06:40 pm I've moved to 10". Had a few 15's and some were fine. Today's 10" speakers give a good full bottom and plenty of punch. I have a 10", six pack by SWR that covers all occasions very nicely. Both Guitar(bass) and EUB.
Dec 31, 2004 07:04 pm Yeah, my last "massive" amp was a 4x10 cab and a 2x15 cab with about 400 watts behind it. It sounded awesome, but I got sick of hauling it around and soundmen hated me...so then I went to my little combo mentioned above and my back hurt less and soundmen suddenly became more friendly...
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Dec 31, 2004 08:15 pm Oh man I agree with you. If I could get by with it I would definately 'pear down' the size of the rig. There are a lot of rigs out there that are small but with excellent sound. Then comes that gig for Ford Motor where the auditorium is huge, and I have to get over a 17 piece band and fill that cavity. For rehersal I have a little Peavey TNT I just leave in the hall. Starting first of the year I am starting a quartet and if it flies I will probably pick up a small Hartke for that group. More bar room, coffee house sized venues, and won't have nine brass horns to get over.
Having said all that; I would really like to move to Kansas. Be with the girls and get away from Michigan. Between cold, drug dealers, failing economy, good ole murder city is getting real old! If I can make that so, who knows what kind of rig I will need.
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Jan 05, 2005 01:40 pm Wow Walt, sorry to hear things are closing in on you there in Michigan. Too bad. I guess I'm so lucky to be where I am.
dB-Wan is right about aching backs and p/o'd soundmen! It's that 28' wavelength on the bottom E that gets the soundmen, they're never situated quite in the right place to hear it properly. And just you try getting a guitar player or singer to help you off the truck and onto the stage with an Ampeg 8 x 10"! In my next life, I'm coming back as a harmonica player!
My 2 cents - Kamikaze, I'd probably go with 10"ers.
I've tried a lot of different set-ups over the years (oh, god so many years...) and I firmly believe that 10's give a better sound - caveat: for me. My last live rig was 4x10" + 1 x 15" with effects etc. only going through the 10's. Nice clarity, good "rumble", and the fundamental sound is kept "clean" with the effects only going through the 10's.
I've played with 1 x 18" reflex bins, which was quite cool for the music I was playing back then; 8 x 10" Ampeg and Trace Elliot rigs (Ampeg wins on that front! That is THE rock'n'roll sound), 1 x 10" Gallien Kruger (I wish I still had that one), 4 x 12", 2 x 15", 1 x 15", and even through a Fender Princeton (my all time favourite "rig") for Coffee Shop gigs with a female folk singer/acoustic guitar thingy. I tend to go 4 x 10" only these days. This works best for me, although I'd like to pare down to 2 x 10". 15"ers are fine, but I don't think the are quite as musical. All depends on the music, the player etc.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Jan 05, 2005 04:13 pm TallChap,
That's a stich. I keep telling the folks in the bands that I am going to trade this boat and anchor in on a flute!
Jan 07, 2005 11:16 am I switched to 10" cabs years ago too. They really are the best way to go. Everything that has been said is accurate. they are so much better than 15's. The advances in cabinet design and the way most of the better gear is ported, allow plenty of ultra lows. But better is that they are not muffled or flabby.
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jan 07, 2005 12:16 pm I've been using a 2x10 from Avatar for the gigs I was doing when playing bass. I was going to add a 1x15 bottom, but never got to it and I'm playing 6 now. I'm pretty impressed with the sound, though I haven't compared it to much else. I'm using a 200w hartke head and there's lots of lows for me.
If I were still playing bass, I think I'd add the 15 to fill the depth.
As an aside, a local bass player around here (northern mich) is using 1200w through a 8x10 last time I heard. SHAZAM!
As a second aside, the bass player in our band is using a SWR 6x10 cab with a mo'bass head. He's pretty happy with it.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Jan 07, 2005 01:05 pm Oh my pjk,
Your from my neck of the woods. You are probably the only person on this site that will know that Atlanta is not only in Georgia! Peaked at your web site.
I love it 'back forty', 'big, BIG, fire'
Keep the home fires rockin!
TallChapAnswer:On a good day, lipstick.Member
Since: Jun 24, 2004
Jan 07, 2005 01:19 pm 8 x 10's ROCK! SVT's are the benchmark by which all rock bass rigs are measured.
But they are heavy, cumbersome, and don't make you any friends.
Oh, and here comes the singer with his/her/its little bag of scarves and throat sprays.......
pjkPrince CZAR-mingMember
Since: Apr 08, 2004
Jan 07, 2005 02:32 pm Heck yeah, Walt. I've done 10 years down there in the city, had my fill, and came back up north. It ain't been easy, but I'm not sorry either.
Sadly, that web site is poorly out of date. I've not had time to update it, and now don't have the immediate means to update it. I will shortly though.
We had another fieldstock this year, and I got pictures, but they're still waiting to get posted. Hopefully soon.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Jan 07, 2005 03:01 pm Can't wait to see them!
Ya it isn't easy either way. I spent a lot of time sifting to find some real folks down here. It's been a struggle, and there sure are a lot of things one has to let go of. Still have relitives up in your neck. Always great to visit and 'sit a spell'!
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Jan 09, 2005 06:02 pm Nice Walt, compact and portable, and apparently loud as well.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Jan 09, 2005 11:35 pm The biggest thing is that they are 'tuned' for upright or EUB and have a very high input impediance for use with bridge pick-ups. As such I think they would do an awsome job on a bass guitar.
