Nov 28, 2004 07:38 am please?
multiple interfaces or..........?
Posted on Nov 28, 2004 07:22 am
Renegade
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Member Since: Nov 28, 2004
Hey I'm new to the world of home recording and I have a few questions I really need answered in order to decide what to what gear to purchase i pretty much know what I want but I need some advice first ....kay
Im buying a digital mixer(DAW controller)
and A MIDI Controller/keyboard but the ones I want both have an audio interface i also plan on buying a pair of monitors for each one 4 production and 1 for mixing mastering is this possible or just plain crazy?
....or can I get the mixer I planed on and one pair of monitors and get a simpler MIDI keyboard?
Can I plug my keyboard into the mixer and attain the mixers interface capabilities?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
ps sorry abut the long post!
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Nov 28, 2004 08:29 am you'll get a lot more from this forum if you wait more than 16 minutes before bumping your post.
Getting two sets of monitors would be pointless, I don't see any good reason to do that. Most (or many anyway) DAW controllers have audio interfaces too, so why get a regular mixer on top of the DAW.
Having mulltiple interfaces on multiple devices isn't a big deal...as long as you know which one you are using and when...
Nov 28, 2004 05:41 pm The one reply I got from my post did not answer any of my questions can some on please give me some better direction thanx
Nov 28, 2004 05:53 pm You asked if two sets of monitors was crazy, I said, in effect yes it is. It would be a complete waste of money given the beginning stages of a studio you are presently at there are MUCH more important things to spend money on.
What I didn't answer was regarding the mixer/keyboard issues, because, quite frankly, it makes no sense to me. Yes, you can plug a keyboard into a mixer, but it would be essentially just to route the keyboard signal to your sound card just like anything else plugged into the mixer.
Given the lack of response at what is usually a very quick responding and helpful forum, I am guessing nobody else understood your post either.
We are all more than willing to help, but you have to help us by explaining your situation as clearly as possible, including thing like WHAT DAW controller you plan on getting, since they vary greatly regarding what ins and outs and digital connections are available on each one. Without that kind of info it would be hard to say if your MIDI controller could plug in to your mixer and use any of the features since we have no idea the connection options on your MIDI controller or DAW controller, or even which modals of each you plan on getting.
Does that make sense?
Nov 28, 2004 08:13 pm Kinda let kay let me clarify
I was thnking about gettin The Yamaha 01x and it pretty much has it all lots of in and outs MIDI&Audio also a built in sound interface 24/96
on the other hand i was lookin at somthing like the Novation X-Station wich also has built in interface 44.4 or 2 I think?
any way i was going to get set of monitors for both givin the fact they both have an interface
.......So I was wondering is this logical?
or if not could i get say the novation ReMote 25
and plug it into my mixer and use it's on board sound capabilities?
Nov 28, 2004 08:14 pm would the MIDI signals from my keyboard transmit threw the mixer and out the monitors hooked up to my mixer?
Nov 29, 2004 07:44 pm MIDI doesn't go to speakers, MIDI has to go to sound modules, which then run the actual audio to the speakers. MIDI is not audio, MIDI is just binary computer data, which requires an audio producing device to turn that data into sound.
Nov 29, 2004 08:20 pm is someone trampling some basic knowledges or is it just my impression?
Nov 29, 2004 09:02 pm I think so too...Renegade, somewhere in here we are crossing paths but not seeing each other. I think you are missing some key parts of the puzzle, but can't quite put my finger on where...
Nov 29, 2004 10:08 pm i dont need to know how midi works i know already i never thought that midi goes to my speakers if didn't clarify enough what i meant was can i control my midi software using my midi keyboard if I pluged my keyboard into my mixer aka would i hear my notes threw my speakers...smart ***
this is really frustrating when i ask the same question over and over and getting nowhere
now how about trying to solve my problem rather than posting 50 replies that don't help anybody what so ever
Nov 29, 2004 11:03 pm dude, you are hopeless (and you can't even spell it). Us folks here that frequent HRC try our best to help folks out that ask for our help. But, nowhere do we guarantee instant gratification. I really don't think it is wise nor acceptable behavior to come up in here without knowing anybody, and start demanding ****. Honestly, I could try and help you out, but at this point you've come across as a complete punk, and I really have no desire to.
oh well eff it. You will probably say this won't help you, but this is what I would do if I were you. Send the audio output of your keyboard (assuming it has onboard sounds) to one of the inputs on your DAW. Plug your monitors into the DAW and that's all you really have to do.
Hopefully, if you're going to continue to post, you'll calm it down a bit, and be less demanding. No one here caters to demands.
Nov 29, 2004 11:35 pm And as for the midi going through the digital mixer. If you are using a PC to record into, then dont run the midi from the keyboard controller into the digital mixer, just run it straight into the PC via a midi interface.
Nov 30, 2004 12:15 am Thank God you are here Noize!
I was trying to help on another post prior to our new friend ending up in a padded room. What I don't get and obviously can not explain is how after you run the midi into the puter you get recorded sound. As I understand it the computer and synthisizer software act as a tone generator and you can output sound from your soundcard at that point. Now how do loop the mess back around into the computer and mixing software?
Nov 30, 2004 06:38 am OK, Renegade, strike one.
I have bent over backwards to try and help you only to be insulted and have you rage on my forum. The best way to learn something is to start at the beginning, which is what I did. The way you worded your question implied that you wanted to run MIDI signals to your speakers, it seemed logical to explain it.
If you can't properly communicate your question how the hell am I supposed to properly communicate an answer? More importantly, I will not sit and listen to anyone start insulting and raging on HRC because they are not getting good enough help FOR FREE fast enough. How about try reading the FAQ and reading some of the recording tips section and putting a little effort into it yourself before expecting the answers on a pretty silver platter.
You have got to be the rudest person to grace HRC in a long time, congratulations.
Nov 30, 2004 07:01 am Oh, and yes you can control MIDI software via a MIDI controller keyboard as long as the MIDI data is getting in to your PC, you can also record all the MIDI notes via your keyboard and control many parameters of MIDI, depending on the limits of your controller. All the sounds from the computer (as it sounds like that is what will actually produce the audio) will run to your amplifier and speakers.
I would say, if you are going to base yourself around a PC, that the Ymaha controller, if it were me, would take a back seat until some more important gear was acquired, isnce all the recording and mixing can be done on the computer.
Nov 30, 2004 08:01 am 16 minute between first and second post. 5 minutes between fourth and fifth. Thats fast. Isnt it? Renegade, the one who can't wait!
Nov 30, 2004 09:26 am I have always found the response times round here to be way above average :-D - considering this is a "community" and not a "Dial up a pay $2 a minute helpline"......you cant really complain tho some people obviously feel the need to do so. After all, why SHOULD anyone round here be spoken to in such a way and then someone have the utter gaul to expect the help they requested. Then, even when the help is given on MORE THAN ONE occassion, they still proceed to rant, SHOUT IN CAPS AT ANYONE WHO CARES TO LISTEN, and generally be obnoxious.
It may be worth remembering that a community is all about giving and taking. If all you "give" to someone who is trying to help you is a mouthful of cheek, you can expect to "take" whatever you get.
Adios...
Coco.
Nov 30, 2004 09:53 am LMAO...
My patience is short with people like this.
I woulda gave him an "e-shoe in the ***" a long time ago...See ya bye!
To demand replies and ***** about between reply times is absurd. Beggers can't be choosers, bar none.
I swear, its as if we get 14 and 15 year olds on here
Nov 30, 2004 10:25 am Hate to keep going on about this...but geez, the respond time here is better then anywhere else. Better then calling tech support and fussing with "Adul Jehad" about why my harddrive is clicking and it needs replacement not formatting!
Anyway, I would have booted him after post number two. Good job dB on the patience there!
Nov 30, 2004 08:51 pm I just like too add i know was in the wrong and im sorry iv'e learned from this experience and it sux i had too learn this way
it's not good when everyone gets the impression
im a complete ignorant imature jackass
cause im not though if i was your shoes i would have thought the same so now every body knows me as the attention starved spaz
if only I could go back..............
Dec 01, 2004 05:56 am how old are you renegade, out of interest?
Dec 01, 2004 09:36 am Well Renegade, in as much as there is no going back, it is far more valuable to have had experience and learned from it to move forward. That is how it works. I for one commend your ability to put ego aside move on. In my books this ability far outweighs the ability to do it right the first time.
I understand the perpensity to want it and want it now, however everything here is a gift.
Hope you can put it all behind and move forward with us.
Happy music making!
Dec 01, 2004 09:51 am Hey guys Like
what has Age got to do with this
I heard:
I swear, its as if we get 14 and 15 year olds on here
and:
how old are you renegade, out of interest?
I mean I was just 16 when I got here
Being rude or something has got nothing to do with age... Well that's what I think... Maybe that's just my age talking,
Not trying to defend or offense anyone Just wanted to Get this out:)
Dec 01, 2004 10:00 am I wear diapers.
Dec 01, 2004 10:21 am presley - I agree man that age has nothing to do with it, but unfortunatly people who are young are often more immature. I think thats what was being reffered too...
Dec 01, 2004 10:26 am I would like to toss this out to Renegade, it's a great book that covers some beginner info regarding studios, plus a lot of great info about digital music formats and other useful info. Pretty good read actually service.bfast.com/bfast/c...bfmtype=dummies
And yes, age does have a lot to do with it. That isn't to say that all young people are immature and impatient, but the ratio is generally much higher. You can very often tell an approximate age of a person by communication styles. Of course, like anything, it's never 100%.
Regardless, drop it, let's move on. Welcome to HRC...I hope you enjoy your stay.
Dec 01, 2004 10:30 am Point taken. But the impatient ranting and arrogance was of childish nature. If you ask me it could easlily be taken in as someone of that age range...but there are always exceptions in groups.
The problem occurs with this diffusion of a screen in place of a human face, tone of voice and emotions it is easy to say such things...
Dec 01, 2004 04:54 pm I wear diapers, vdalehubbard i just want you to know ..that made my day.......just the thought that you could be right now if front of your screen with big ol safety pins holding up the sides of your crap trappers...well thats just funny!!!!!!!!
Dec 01, 2004 05:00 pm Hmmm...who said I had safety pins to hold them up?
Dec 07, 2004 04:55 pm ^lmfao.. wow.. a bad moment turns good. reneage, you keep re-scripting your questions, so when some treid to answer you got upset.. its okay, people get fusturated, but its worth it to hold it in, cu zthis site will help u take a mic and a comp to a complete hot set up..
Dec 07, 2004 06:52 pm yeah I know that now
I never did say thanks 2 db for not giving me the boot that day... so Db if you read this THANK YOU!!!! so much I still feel bad 4 being so unrespectfull and rude It must of been a bad day i guess i expected the magical studio genie to just feed me knowlege on a platinum plate but i know better now I cant put it in words how greatfull i am long story short...Thank you
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