Studio Foam....pt. 2
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Posted on Oct 13, 2004 01:22 am
ILLbizzel
ILLbino - one of WA's finest
Member Since: Feb 10, 2004
So im looking into studio foam.
I think I want either 3 or 4 inch thick foam, but they come in different designs. I've seen pyramid, studio wedge, egg crate, etc... I heard the Egg Crate doesn't work that well, but I'm not 100%. Should I be concerned in the design?
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Oct 13, 2004 06:51 am kinda depends where you want to put it and what the problem in that area is...but the bottom line is you either want to abosorb the sound or get them bouncing around in non-parallel directions, so realy most any design will do those things...but this really isn't my best area of knowledge either.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Oct 13, 2004 11:10 am I have a book titled "the SOUND ON SOUND book of creative recording II" Paul White, copyright 1999. It goes into quite a bit of detail regarding shape, structure and frequencies effected. It still comes down to a lot of VooDoo. Personally, I find it a little daunting as I can see myself buying a lot of stuff and pasting it to walls and still not getting where I want to go. Accoustic design is part science, part preference, part art, and part VooDoo as far as I can see.
Jason H.Jack of all trades master of ___Member
Since: May 28, 2004
Oct 13, 2004 11:31 am I say you line the walls in bubble wrap...
Its the cheaper form of packaging material
;)
Heres a common tip...most foam mfgrs recommend you affix the foam to the wall directly...via adhesive.
If you live in a apt or record in a space where you either can't make it a permanent fixture...Or will someday have to remove it...Line the walls in cardboard (nails)...then adhere the foam...
Oct 13, 2004 01:05 pm Just know that these are fine but will only affect the higher freq's. The real problems in many home studios is the low end (80-300) and this is what you want to be focusing on. It isn't easy and isn't cheep and that why a lot of people shy away from it. They would rather have more gear, but I cannot see where this is beneficial if you cannot hear what it's doing to the sound.
I'm getting these:
www.realtraps.com
ILLbizzelILLbino - one of WA's finestMember
Since: Feb 10, 2004
Oct 13, 2004 03:57 pm I'm only concerned about vocals for hip hop productions. So of all the different designed, which would you recommend most? I need a real dry sound that is absorved.
WaltChief Cook and Bottle WasherMember
Since: May 10, 2002
Oct 13, 2004 07:52 pm Bennis, That is a cool link. Added it to my faives. (oh how california I am getting) I was also doodle putsing around and found where some commercial dampening is being done with polyester fill. Bought in bulk it is not too expensive. Think I might do a little experamentation with that in the future. Looks like it may be great for small room treatment.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 13, 2004 09:11 pm Ill, if you go here, www.auralex.com/ they have a portion of the site called Acoustics 101. It is the most informative place for this kind of thing. For a vocal booth or area you will not need the 4" thick stuff. The 2" pyramids should do the job more then sufficaintly. That is what is primarily used for ISO booths and such.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 13, 2004 09:12 pm Ya, Bennis, they have been in our links section for a while now. The have some great stuff. Take a look at Auralex as well for price comparisons.
ILLbizzelILLbino - one of WA's finestMember
Since: Feb 10, 2004
Oct 13, 2004 11:36 pm Great information. They said the wedge style provide the most absorption which is what I'm aiming for. And the 2 inch will work fine.
I figure I can create reflections with effects if I need so.
I guess the best way is to experiment and go from there.
Noize2uCzar of MidiAdministrator
Since: Apr 04, 2002
Oct 13, 2004 11:39 pm Ill, to be honest for an ISO booth the pyramid is the best way to go. The wedge might cut to much life out, as you dont want full absorbtion of the vocal but a consitant control which the pyramid is made to do best.
ILLbizzelILLbino - one of WA's finestMember
Since: Feb 10, 2004
Oct 14, 2004 01:04 am well, your going to laugh when I tell you my concept I'm doing. I'll be moving into my new place in a couple months, until then I need a quick fix. I don't want to foam up all the walls here and get in trouble with the landlord. So, I'm using a box that goes around my condensor mic, and then foam the inside. Better yet, the box is one of those cat furniture cushions like here:
www.petsmart.com/global/p...D=1097729682384
lmao. I know it's pretty ghetto, but its only temporary. It's only an experiment. The entrance to the cat cushion will have the pop screen, lmao. It'll probaly muffle the f**k out of the vocals, but its worth a try. When I get into my new place, I'll have an actual booth, non-square, different kinds of foam, etc...
My audio right now comes ok, but I can definitely hear the reflections that hit the trebles hard.
Pretty funny, huh? lol
